I generally agree with the sentiment that the CAL side should not be punished for J. Pierce and his MEC's malfeasance. I'm very surprised that nothing came of it though. There were plenty of other options to remediate it. Heck, the CAL side was able to trade a somewhat minor grievance for 40 mil, yet the UAL side got nothing for a gross violation of the TPA. How about LOA 25 for starters. Very disappointed that once again the UAL MEC (combined now) blinked.

On the unity front - it is amazing how quickly that card gets thrown when the battle seems to be over and there is nothing left to take. Yet I still see the vast majority of CAL pilots not wearing an ALPA pin. Add in the lawsuit and the take whatever I can get mentality that I see as pervasive and the calls for unity ring somewhat hollow.

Scott

I agree with most of what you say here, Scott. The only thing I question is if the MEC "blinked". I have no inside info, but the way I read the announcement, the arbitrator left only 1 choice. Take the $$ back from the LCAL Bubbas or not. I'm not sure there was any alternative to "get" anything for the LUAL side. Obviously our MEC (and I) strongly disagree with the arbitration decision. But unlike a certain 6, I will live with the results because the arbitration process was followed, win or lose.

Personally I'm happy that the LCAL's get to keep the $$. I'd rather them have it than management. But JP's true colors are exposed yet again.

Scott, If the MEC could get anything out of the company as far as improvement in the current contract they would have. The company did not offer or were interested in mediation (my own opinion). As far as we my own perspective or yours; we all have decisions to maximize our own interests. I do not care in you go for the money or the time off. Realize though on a macro level we are together.

Perhaps you should read the arbitrators words again. What JP and management did was highly inappropriate and wrong. It worked, and their end run resulted in a nice payout which you didn't deserve. Good for you, and I mean that sincerely. But perhaps a little humility and a "thanks" for not taking the money back from you would be a more appropriate response. If you can't muster that, silence would have been enough.

Please add me to your list as well Staller. At the end of my career, I'm wholly confident I will be in a far better place to speak of integrity then an internet flamer.

Damnit! I would have like to have seen each CAL pilot had about $200 taken from each paycheck until UAL pilots made whole. Now THAT would have been awesome!! :)
The slick tie number would become even larger. It's extremely large now. Very, very young pilots HATE ALPA. That means that you older guys will never, ever see unity. Sorry. Enjoy your retirement.

What might have been a better solution, would have been to deduct the amount of the grievance from any future profit sharing until the debt was paid.

It's obvious one side cares little about unity. Maybe following your young ALPA HATERS would be a good thing for all. Take your ALPA pin off and display your pride and support for what you created. Any hope of unity stopped when you guys stood by and supported JP. Slick ties for all the man said -

Excellent post Scott. The calls for unity and accompanying representative actions would have really meant something in 2010, but they don't now. That opportunity was trashed, beginning with the T&PA. This merger has been all about advancing the LCAL pilots' interests at our expense. Management has played it perfectly, with the able assistance of the LCAL MEC.

I've had good interactions with the individual LCAL pilots I've come across, but as a group I resent them for the actions of their leadership. I reserve my hate for the scabs, Jay "negotiations are going well" Pierce, Jim "we got this" Brucia, and Jason " we're prepared to delay the JCBA forever if you don't agree to our pay banding" Baron.

Where is the arbitrator's ruling located. I haven't been able to find it on the ALPA website nor was it part of the email from the MEC.