Originally Posted by JetBlast77 (Post 1646437)

Thanks guys, im planning on filing just to get an answer. There were 19 trips available when it got to me and it simply says (as it always does) "requested award prevents solution completion". Well then why did all those trips get used to construct ppls lines below me? None of us had carry in or anything to prevent us from getting those trips. They had the same clean slate that I had. They simply got the same schedule I could have gotten. Oh well I know it happens, just frustrating is all :)

Originally Posted by JetBlast77 (Post 1605732)

Hey guys I've only been bidding for a few months but I have a question. I essentially waived everything I possibly could for April and did not get a line. A guy who is 5 or 6 numbers junior to me got the last line however. I'm just wondering how this is possible. I put every possible trip in my pool and waived everything. I could understand if I still didn't get a line after doing this, however I don't understand how someone six numbers below me got one. Just trying to figure out this system (as I'm sure everyone is). The guy that got the line is just off IOE. I didn't think we did OE lines anymore (I only have about 40 hours in type and haven't gotten one). Can anyone shed some light? Thanks.

Originally Posted by Coach67 (Post 1646563)

If your last Bid Group is a Reserve Bid Group to protect yourself against shifting G-Lines, it will ignore your previous Line Bid Groups and go straight to your very last Reserve Bid Group if it allow the software to more easlily solve the bidding equation.

It does that even though it could have built you a line with a Line Bid Group ABOVE your Reserve Bid Group.

This is another way a junior pilot that is BELOW the G-Line can get a Line and put a more senior pilot on reserve even though he is above the G-Line.

Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1646572)

Yup. That's the one. I think if someone below the g line does not submit a reserve BG then it will award a reserve line to anyone above the g line who did have a reserve BG anywhere in their bid and award a line to the guy below the g line thereby "satisfying" both bids.

Originally Posted by LeeMat (Post 1646586)

Exactly what just happen to me (DCA756). I am two numbers below the G line. I put a Reserve group after my regular Line bid groups.
The Reserve bid groups was to protect some days off. Guys junior to me both got regular lines with the days off that I wanted. It's bull crap, because PBS could have built me a regular line with the days off that I wanted. Lesson learned.

Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1646597)

Problem is it's a catch-22. You DO want to protect a day off, line or reserve, but if you do not bid reserve to protect yourself you'll get a line but no day off, but if you submit a reserve BG then it will give that to you even if you could have held it with a line BG. The proof here is did a junior pilot get a line AND the day off you wanted?

Originally Posted by LeeMat (Post 1646662)

Yes....:mad:

Originally Posted by 82spukram (Post 1646851)

Anyone in EWR 737 FO who wants a line and they are on reserve. Pm me. I just had a kid and wanted to have Tuesday-Thursday off. I got a line that workes Saturday-Tuesday. 88 hrs credit, 950 in per deim. 60 bucks in int override. Mostly non commutable. Not sure if we can line swap here at UAL but if you are interested I will do all the legwork to make this happen.