UAL vs CAL Interns
 

I am a former UAL intern (2000) and have had my stuff in from the beginning and have heard nothing. Any former UAL interns getting/got an interview? I know several Former CAL Interns getting hired but none from LUAL. I did a meet and greet with one of the chief pilots before they stopped interviewing and he said that being a UAL intern wouldn't get me the interview. What gives? Is LCAL in charge of hiring? Thanks

UAL vs CAL Interns
 

I'm a 2000 UAL intern. I was hired last April. I went to 5 job fairs that UAL was at as well as keeping contact with a few of the recruiters and my flight manager from the internship. The internship I felt helped but the networking was what I got me the interview. Several interns from 2000 on the LUAL side have been hired over the past year. Keep your head up, keep networking and hopefully you'll get the call soon!

i know several CAL interns that have not heard anything yet either. Though there are many that did.

Try to go to Chicago and meet with your mentor in the meantime. Once we start putting on job fairs attend as many as you can.

And here I was hoping this thread was about some sorta Intern Fight Club pay per view event in the Willis basement.

Thanks! Gives me some hope after all. It's just been a bit discouraging because I thought the point of an internship was to give you a leg up on the rest of the competition for at least an interview. I guess That free lunch I got everyday was my thanks. :)

Works for some folks and not so much for others.

I think the key is to stay in touch with those contacts you made during the internship. If you haven't over the years, it may not be a bad idea to hunt them down and ask for any advice (if they're still around).

FWIW, I'm pretty sure the great UAL/CAL intern battle went down like this:

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Yeah, there were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident.

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You got free lunch?? Damn us CAL interns had to make money on the side to be able to pay for those..

As a former UAL intern (TK), I think fight club would be a good hiring tool. (Winning not as important as creativity and style points!)

I never really gave it any thought, but you guys are all willing to work for free?

Better than P2F I guess.

Maybe

That's why they are given preferential hiring.

You also get college credits...

Caught by airport security cameras.

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Doesn't sound like you understand what an internship is. Whether paid or unpaid, the primary benefit is for the intern, not the company. (There is a slew of labor case law on that topic.). An airline college internship always was, and still is, a highly competitive and coveted position. If it was simply volunteering to make copies and fetch coffee for free, then anyone could sign up for it. But that's not the case, as you have to be a competitive applicant from a college or university that participates in the program. In the case of the United internship, the benefits that flow to the intern far outweigh any considerations of a semester without pay.

Last time I made coffee at the office, I was getting paid.

I think if I was an HR department, I would probably not hire anyone who interned, anywhere. Too me, it would show the desire to do ANYTHING, even work for free, to jump in front of the Q.

Glad you are not in HR then. Internships are valuable for both the company and the intern. yeah, it is free labor, but the company gets to see the intern in action, the intern gets to build relationships with the company and learn about the industry. Many, many industries have internships which are almost required in order to move forward in that industry.

Did you work for a regional? If so, you pretty much worked for free there. What's the diff?

^^^ THIS ^^^

I have a friend that was a UAL intern several years ago (not sure if it was 2000, or not) and he was picked up last April. He is just about to come off of probation. Keep working on it.

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And if you were an HR department, you'd be demonstrating how your HR department is pretty ignorant about internships.

Flight Operations Interns are now paid. We have one who was offered a job at COPA as soon as he graduates from Purdue. Starting pay is like 47K plus housing etc. Not a bad way to begin your career as a 22 year old single guy with student loans. With the shortage and hiring over the next 5 years, he will probably be a 25 year old UAL new hire. BTW I've met him and he is one heck of a sharp/nice guy who I'm sure will be receiving high marks from his mentor.

I did an internship with CAL in 1999. Worked in the CPO at EWR. It was the only position available at EWR. The rest of the interns went to Houston to work in various offices (most of which were downtown at HQ). The stipulation for getting EWR was that you had to live near by (on your own dime). Luckily I grew up 20 min from the airport, so I was able to crash with the parents. We didn't get paid, but did get college credits, some ground school and 20 hours in a B727 simulator at IAH. We also got a tour of the Boeing plant in WA, a tour of Houston center, IAH tower, had unlimited jumpseat privileges and got 6 buddy passes to use after the internship was over. Overall, not a bad deal. Worked my arse off, had tons of fun and met a lot of good people. I did keep in touch with the CPO there for quite a while thinking I was going to apply to CAL in '07, but wound up landing a fulltime ANG gig and he retired in the '08-'09 timeframe. I'll be submitting an app to UAL within the next 4-5 months, so we'll see if it helps any.

RJ guy? Nah. 19 year UAL pilot. I have had 5 flying jobs. I got all of them based on my competitive experience. I never even considered working for free to jump in front of the Q.

you speak as if interning is "jumping" the line in some sort of scab fashion. You probably never had to opportunity or for what ever reason didn't get into an internship. If by saying you intentionally didn't do an internship because you have too much "integrity" to "jump" any sort of line i guess you must also consider yourself an uninformed superhero on the side. A "low information voter" if you will. There is nothing wrong with networking, working your ass off, and getting college credit. Especially if its before you even enter the work force. The only people who bash interns are the people who didn't intern themselves or are jealous someone else had the initiative to go out and be proactive for an opportunity later in life.

Guess you don't understand the concept of seniority. Higher seniority = good.
Internship = most likely higher seniority in the end

You = horribly misinformed on internships

A lot of career fields have internships. Some are paid. Some aren't. Wanting to get paid for the 3-4 months of your "hard work" is a very near sighted attitude.

I wanna intern with these guys. Shenaningans would abound in Willis.

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Is it possible you did a poor job as an intern ? Perhaps rub somebody
the wrong way without meaning to ? There are people who are
their own worst enemy without realizing it.

LMAO.

At UAL, the ones who bash interns........are those poor souls who have had the displeasure of having to fly with them. After scabs, interns are the next in line for most disliked as flying partners.

I hope the HR department takes the time to read this thread. It would probably help them decide to not hire any more interns.

My favorite intern subject is when they explain to me how they paid their dues during those grueling and experience packed 12 months in the right seat of C-402 before getting the call from UAL.

You're wrong about this slick - I'm surprised these guys have been as civil as they have been considering your post. I like your comment about being hired because of your skill and ability - really? And yes, I have flown with many of the interns and would much rather fly with one of them than one that THINKS he's ???? gift to aviation.

What you should do is quit posting to this thread and let it die.

Ya I guess that is possible but unlikely. I'm a pretty nice guy:D.

Ah, Staller/Carolsdanger/Hopesales, What would a APC thread be without you piping in with your esteemed wisdom.
I guess I have taken on your traditional role on this thread, $%#@ing off those on the thread.

Welcome.

This thread should be moved to an airline pilot wannabe forum. They have no business here. They only got here because UAL gave them a UAL.com email and that allowed them to join. I am sure Riddle and Purdue and other schools with aviation programs have wannabe forums.

When I was at xjt I used to fly with brand new 500hr hot shots who were former cal/ual interns. They definitely felt they were too good for an erj even though they needed constant help and acted as if they should be sitting in a 757.

Kinda confused there slick. Do you mean the Interns don't deserve to be on this forum or they don't deserve to be at United? I'm starting to sense you're feeling a little jealous. We've had guys like you over the years but generally speaking they haven't done well. Just so we all know where YOU ARE COMING FROM - the minority pilots, lady pilots and intern pilots don't have a right to be here because they didn't experience the up-comings that Probe did? If you feel this way, it really is sad because your United career should be some of the best times of your life.

This is United not Continental and when you say United pilots, you imply that all United pilots have these biases. They don't and you don't have a right to paint them in that corner on a public forum slick.

I think two guys named Sean and Randy should apply!