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ERJ Jay 05-16-2014 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1644643)
Really,

I get what you're saying I just don't know why you need to go on page after page bloviating about how you don't want any trouble with scabs.


Life's too short for me to care about what they did when I was 7 years old.

In the meantime, I'm going to make life on the line as livable as I can.

SpecialTracking 05-16-2014 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by ERJ Jay (Post 1644648)
Life's too short for me to care about what they did when I was 7 years old.

In the meantime, I'm going to make life on the line as livable as I can.

Unless you are planning on crossing yourself, you might want to care what they did in the past in order to deter those in the future.

89Pistons 05-16-2014 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by ERJ Jay (Post 1644648)
Life's too short for me to care about what they did when I was 7 years old.

In the meantime, I'm going to make life on the line as livable as I can.

You caring about it doesn't prevent you from making life on the line "livable". You should care about it.

Really 05-16-2014 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1644643)
Really,

I get what you're saying I just don't know why you need to go on page after page bloviating about how you don't want any trouble with scabs.

This will be my last post on subject Hoss! 1 or 2 of my posts were to answers to a question asked of me on the subject. I could care less about the scabs or said issue. I know you and I will handle the subject correctly if presented to us. What got my "underwear" in a bunch was the subject being brought up on this thread! I get tired of hearing about it all the time as I'm sure you get tired of some things we bring up. I need to let it go and ignore! Enough said, and I do hope you get to bid onto something that you want!! (sincerely!) I to was a Denver guy at one time-GREAT PLACE- Unfortunately, I think it will always be senior!!:( Have a good weekend!

Airhoss 05-16-2014 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by ERJ Jay (Post 1644648)
Life's too short for me to care about what they did when I was 7 years old.

In the meantime, I'm going to make life on the line as livable as I can.

Yet the people you are willing to get confrontational with are the ones fighting the good fight. And the ones you are willing to give a pass are the ones who did everything humanly possible to destroy this profession. Remember that not one of those low life scum was hired on merit. Each and everyone was a bottom sucking slime ball who would have never been employable under any other circumstances. And that is the truth whether you were 7 or 70 when it happened.

Coach67 05-17-2014 04:01 AM


Originally Posted by ERJ Jay (Post 1644648)
Life's too short for me to care about what they did when I was 7 years old.

In the meantime, I'm going to make life on the line as livable as I can.

Man ... how did you get here? Oh wait ... let me do the math ... if you were seven during the strike then that makes you ... what ... oh yeah ... young and naive! You'll grow up when you've been screwed by some of their ilk!

ERJ Jay 05-17-2014 04:33 AM


Originally Posted by Coach67 (Post 1644956)
Man ... how did you get here? Oh wait ... let me do the math ... if you were seven during the strike then that makes you ... what ... oh yeah ... young and naive! You'll grow up when you've been screwed by some of their ilk!

And the screwing by the arbitration wasn't enough?

I said I didn't care what they did 31 years ago (1983).

I can't undo what they did - and neither can you.

What they do today is another matter.

SpecialTracking 05-17-2014 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by ERJ Jay (Post 1644972)
And the screwing by the arbitration wasn't enough?

http://www.hawaflcio.org/Images/scab-homer.gif

Slats Extend 05-17-2014 10:31 AM

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May 17, 2014

Dear Fellow Pilots,

________________________________________
"The United strike effort clearly established a blueprint for successful labor battles in the deregulated airline industry. The technological and organizational capabilities developed in the 1985 strike represented the leading edge in labor's ability to positively influence the balance of power between management and labor."
--Excerpt from "From Wooden Wings"

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Twenty-nine years ago today, the 5,000 pilots of legacy United Airlines waited anxiously to see if they would be called upon to take to the picket lines at midnight. Management’s onerous proposals for B-scale wages on the property and 95% support of a strike vote authorizing a withholding of services by the pilots had set the stage. The 29-day strike that followed was, as one junior member of the UAL-MEC at that time put it, a “seminal event that started us on the road to where we are today. It permanently changed the United culture.” It is this history that formed the . . . . ALPA pin.

With staggering losses in the first quarter of this year and continued delays in implementation of our UPA, United pilots again find ourselves with our collective futures in our hands. It is our resolve to influence our management team that will shape that future. The pilots of United Airlines will do all we can to see our airline return to a company that engenders employee pride and shareholder profitability. We will do our part and hold management’s feet to the fire when necessary to ensure the long term viability of our airline. As the new United charts a course forward, the pilots will remain the essential component. Management teams come and go, but we are here for the long term.

Today we remember and celebrate the time-honored victory over an oppressive management. We celebrate the fraternity of being members of a union that was and is greater than the sum of its parts. We celebrate our pilot group’s unity and renew our commitment to each other, all 11,838 of us, to carry that spirit of unity forward.

Fraternally and in Unity,




Captain Jay Heppner
Chairman, United Master Executive Council


Attachment: From Wooden Wings

pilot64golfer 05-17-2014 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by ERJ Jay (Post 1644972)
And the screwing by the arbitration wasn't enough?

I agree. Putting 2007 hires ahead of 1999 hires was just wrong. Let's hope we can re-hear the SLI and just use our seniority this time.


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