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mrmak2 06-29-2014 05:55 AM

Is the end of probation contingent on the check ride? For example, if the check ride is assigned into the due month (13 months after DOH), does the probation period also extend until that time?

Also, what is the protocol for the end of probation as far as a meeting with a supervisor, etc?

cadetdrivr 06-29-2014 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by mrmak2 (Post 1674117)
Is the end of probation contingent on the check ride? For example, if the check ride is assigned into the due month (13 months after DOH), does the probation period also extend until that time?

Also, what is the protocol for the end of probation as far as a meeting with a supervisor, etc?

If memory serves, new-hires are scheduled for their first recurrent checkride at nine months to ensue that it occurs during probation.

The whole probation thing is essentially a non-event for the professional aviators that are competitive for an interview. A pilot has to be truly "special" to not make it though probation, IMHO.

The very, very few that do not make it are well known because:
1) their antics are spectacular and/or very specific

2) it is so rare

Lerxst 06-29-2014 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by cadetdrivr (Post 1674132)
If memory serves, new-hires are scheduled for their first recurrent checkride at nine months to ensue that it occurs during probation.

The whole probation thing is essentially a non-event for the professional aviators that are competitive for an interview. A pilot has to be truly "special" to not make it though probation, IMHO.

The very, very few that do not make it are well known because:
1) their antics are spectacular and/or very specific

2) it is so rare

I love the bit in the FOM about "Styles of Flying"..

"Spectacular or stunt flying in United equipment is strictly prohibited." I'll never be accused of spectacular landings, so I got that going for me. Which is nice.

cadetdrivr 06-29-2014 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by Lerxst (Post 1674174)
I love the bit in the FOM about "Styles of Flying"..

"Spectacular or stunt flying in United equipment is strictly prohibited."

The FOM is just advisory anyway, right?

Lerxst 06-29-2014 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by cadetdrivr (Post 1674207)
The FOM is just advisory anyway, right?

Only if you're wearing your hat. That's the most important thing.

APC225 06-29-2014 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by mrmak2 (Post 1674117)
Is the end of probation contingent on the check ride? For example, if the check ride is assigned into the due month (13 months after DOH), does the probation period also extend until that time?

No.

6-C Period of Probation
A Pilot shall be on probation for twelve (12) Bid Periods of service as a Pilot for the Company and having performed 165 days of work for the Company. For purposes of this Section 6-C, "Work" shall include Pilot duty, reserve availability, training, instruction, special assignment and all other flight duties for which compensation is paid. Nothing in this Agreement shall be construed to prevent the Company from ending a Pilot's employment during his period of probation regardless of his position on the Seniority List.

APC225 06-29-2014 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by mrmak2 (Post 1674117)
Also, what is the protocol for the end of probation as far as a meeting with a supervisor, etc?

LCAL used to have everyone meet at the end of probation to give feedback from the collected Probationary Reports. Don't know if they do this anymore. Either way, I wouldn't take the initiative on this unless they told you to. If they want to give feedback they'll let you know. The old adage about meeting your chief pilot just twice applies. Once when you arrive at the base and he says "welcome to United" and the again upon your retirement when he says "who are you?"

yoter83 06-29-2014 05:05 PM

It's my understanding that probation ends 12 months after your hire date (you'll get a letter from your CP). Your CQ may or may not fall within that 12 month probationary period. Your due month for CQ should be 9 months after IOE completion. Whether you do your first checkride on probation depends on how long training takes, and whether you do CQ in your early, due, or grace month.

socalflyboy 06-29-2014 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by Lerxst (Post 1674233)
Only if you're wearing your hat. That's the most important thing.

And alpa pin:D


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