Mixed cockpit
 

So, sitting inside the fence, I'm curious.

Anyone flown with a merged cockpit? Which fleet and seat? How did it go?

I was an off-the-street hire last year, but I've flown with captains from both sides on the 737.

The grousing is pretty equal...

Fortunately, the SLI didn't affect me, so that never comes up. I have my own opinions on it, but I am very careful about divulging them.

Flown with multiple UAL guys new to left seat of the NG 'Guppy'. Sorry to wreck the dreams of the 5% who try to dominate this board, BUT everything has been stellar. Talked JCBA and SLI freely, but candidly I am far removed from the law suit crowd. My only gripe is that UAL guys have acted surprised and looked uncomfortable when I've told stories illustrating why CAL '83-85 hires are a cancer. Wish reality met web board rhetoric.

I've flown with several L-UAL pilots and have nothing but good things to say about them. They are like 90%+ of the pilots at the new United. Good guys that want to work together for a good company so we can take care of our families.

You haven't flown with me yet :)

It will be a good trip.

Haven't flown with any LCAL yet, but Jumpseated with several. Everyone has been top shelf.

I have a buddy 777 F/O who flew with a LCAL Capt and it didn't go well. But he was a scab so it wouldn't have gone well if he had been from LUAL either

Guys,

This subject makes it sound like it hasn't been happening since the TPA was signed and UAL folks came in as new hires on the CAL side during that period.

We've all been flying together for a long time now.

Everyone get over it and focus on the real target please.

Both sides have their douche bags. It doesn't matter what color their uniform was before the merger or after.

Lee

I'm not trying to be an instigator of trouble.

After seeing bids with legacy seats/bases going to pilots from the opposite legacy, and not having any interaction with them myself, I was just curious how it everyone is enjoying their new position.

You know, like what a forum is supposed to be for. ;)

Somebody is always needing to stir the pot. It's kinda like the school yard kid that tried to get fights started, so he could stand back and watch.

Never had a problem with any LCAL pilots on my airplane. I did however have an issue with an LCAL F/A on Sunday while deadheading from SEA to DEN. I can't use the appropriate term on APC to describe her but if she was a puppy she would have been the runt.

Just FYI according to our lovely little princess who made it a point to molest me with her opinions at least once every 15 minutes. I was supposed to take my ID off when traveling on a "Continental" airplane because they could tell I was a United guy and that makes them mad. Because of me on a scheduled dead head they had to Kick off paying customers, Continental pilots don't do that. I was supposed to help all the passengers put their bags in the overhead before I sat down. Gordon Bethune is friends to this day with all Continental F/A's. Jeff Smisek hangs out with LUAL pilots and considers them friends (seriously). The "United" reservation system is causing problems. Those are just the highlights. But you get the idea.

Did she sing?

http://youtu.be/AkjTGCrLvAU

Unfortunately she didn't sing or have any other pluses. I'm guessing she was solidly in the minus column on or off the job.:rolleyes:

She comes with a Kung-Foo grip!

Sounds like a typical "see you next time"...

I think APC is trying to say you made that story up...
?

No way LCal has bad f/a's, we ordered the new stretched model. ;)

Dude I couldn't make/wouldn't up a story like that......No matter what APC thinks.

Last week on my trip everything went great. We were on time everywhere we went all of our maintenance items were fixed and we received our MRD's before push time. We never once had to wait for final weights. This place rocks I LOVE working here and I see nothing but positive cash flow and stability for the future. Looks like we will be getting our next contract with huge pay raises and QOL increases a year early and Jeff has decided to voluntarily step down and let a competent leader take the reins.

See I am incapable of telling a lie.....But the F/A story is for real.

No, Short, I wasn't. The "whale of a tale" was all hers. None of what she said rings true or even makes any sense. It's hard enough working towards unity without having an FA slandering one side while ridiculing the other. They've got their own axes to grind, from griping about serving our crew meals ("I hope you can get it in your contract too" I said pleasantly) to being miles away from a contract ("yes, that's got to be difficult" I said sympathetically followed by "we'll take our meal after the initial cruise PA, thanks so much.").

Been treated very well by Cal flight attendants while deadheading. Friendly, food, drinks and always offering water on the way out. Thats on maybe 9 or 10 flights. jmo

That's been my experience too. She was definitely an outlier.

Most definitely. I've never once had the slightest issue before this little darling.

Say no more.

You had me at "Flight Attendant".

My apologies...:o
Yeah, I've heard the "complaints" about having to serve our crew meals AND snacks, and getting a lie down seat for the break, etc....

Lerxt;
Your Crazy Cat Lady picture is forever saved to my computer. I have already sent it to a few friends.

Well Shrek, I have flown with you and I remember a lot of $itching and moaning.

Wait a minute, I think it was me....................

I have nothing bad to say about captains from either side. Everyone has been great.

Observations:
Previous CAL talk, a lot, about the size of their paychecks but are also all about teaching you how to max out pay/QOL too. One spent two days teaching me how to max out PBS credit. Haven't had a single beer bought for the half wing pin, lots of slam clicking.

Previous UAL, enthrall to finally be in a left seat. Almost to a fault feel it's their duty to take care of us new guys (thanks!) Try and avoid talking about last 10 years. Don't scratch off the shiny exciting veneer of their new left seat and expose the disappointment/vitriol of last decade.

Actually that is an old time LUAL tradition. Half wingers don't buy many beers never have.

It be cool to get a half winger on the 400, so I could treat... Not likely though.

I did get to meet the eight ball and new hires at the doubletree a few months ago, it was fun to see new hires finally, and an honor to buy a round.

I hear you. Just feel that it shouldn't be an issue with anyone. Each side from all employee groups have their 1%ers. I wouldn't make judgement on the whole based on the actions of a few.

My experience has been positive 99% of the time. That is with pilots, fa's, CPO, etc. The others aren't worth my time.

Lee

We need MORE of that but with the SAME type of FAs - alas I think the latter will NEVER happen again in our lifetimes :D

Wanna be a successful airline?

F/A MANDATORY retirement age=27 years old
Female only

Please don't be offended as the above is a joke and could never happen.



(would work though)

Could never happen in the US - pretty common elsewhere :)

I am doubled over crying right now.....

That's unfortunate but I guarantee if you fly with this former CAL guy, you will not pay for anything.

Sincere question here and would appreciate some honest replies. What is it with the UAL side of the house refusing aircraft on non-ETOPS flights with a legitimate APU placarded? I've seen several flights cancelled because of this with a very recent 767-400 leaving the F/O behind because he refused to take the aircraft.

Looking for explanations as I never saw one refused on the CAL side ever.

Thanks

What would you refuse over on the CAL side?

Most guys I have seen "carry the trash" out of a MX base like its a normal thing.....

We have what's called a Minimum Equipment List or MEL which explains what equipment can be inoperative, it also explains how this affects you operationally, and any restrictions you may face. I think if you search your IPad, you'll find one too. Not sure what you go by Air Hoss, but if your afraid to fly with an inoperative APU, your in the wrong business, or you need to grow a pair.... I even (gasp) used to fly a turbine plane without an APU installed, and I survived.

I made the mistake of taking an inop APU on the 300 Guppy in ORD one HOT summer day. Ramp pulled the conditioned air about 10 minutes before dept (contrary to my wishes). The start cart arrived about 5 min after dept (the one that worked anyway). By the time we got the engines and packs going, the cabin temps were triple digit. Waited in an hour long conga line to take off, did I mention it was HOT. Got multiple calls from the FAs about the heat. Never Again. Maybe in the Fall or Winter.