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Airhoss 07-27-2014 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by flygirl135 (Post 1692898)
Thanks guys... I'm sure I'll figure it all out. Just trying to get ahead of the game by reading through some of the contract ahead of time. It's been 14 years since I did my <2 months on reserve... Gonna be an adjustment!

It didn't get any better...

APC225 07-27-2014 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by SurfnFlyer (Post 1692956)
Part 117 and reserve are wonderful/sarcasm

The pain's the same, just moved around.

flygirl135 07-27-2014 09:50 AM

I'll take reserve at a major over being a senior captain at a regional... ANY. DAY.

130drvr 07-27-2014 01:42 PM

I will, and am currently, taking reserve at United over a line. More days off for EWR 73 FOs.

130drvr 07-27-2014 01:44 PM

117 actually makes working the Reserve schedule much easier. The 10AM earliest callout day 1 makes commuting much easier.

C-17 Driver 07-27-2014 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by 130drvr (Post 1693168)
I will, and am currently, taking reserve at United over a line. More days off for EWR 73 FOs.

I agree with the above. I went from 3 Jul - 20 Jul without turning a wheel. That included 2 blocks of reserve and 3 short calls followed by my HDOs. I live in base so that is why it is fairly manageable.

I try to do military duty, when I can, on my last day off and on a day off after a reserve period. When placed on my last day off, they cannot contact me prior to 0100 on my first day on and they cannot put anything on my board until 1300.

By putting military duty on my first day off after a reserve block, that essentially blocks them from rolling my days off. It's working pretty good so far and who cares if they think I am trying to "game" the system. As far as I am concerned, I am doing military duty on days off.

Unfortunately, I only have about 7 TPs left until the end of this quarter so I need to be a little more judicious!

voodiloquist 07-27-2014 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by C-17 Driver (Post 1693352)
I agree with the above. I went from 3 Jul - 20 Jul without turning a wheel. That included 2 blocks of reserve and 3 short calls followed by my HDOs. I live in base so that is why it is fairly manageable.

I try to do military duty, when I can, on my last day off and on a day off after a reserve period. When placed on my last day off, they cannot contact me prior to 0100 on my first day on and they cannot put anything on my board until 1300.

By putting military duty on my first day off after a reserve block, that essentially blocks them from rolling my days off. It's working pretty good so far and who cares if they think I am trying to "game" the system. As far as I am concerned, I am doing military duty on days off.

Unfortunately, I only have about 7 TPs left until the end of this quarter so I need to be a little more judicious!

Good plan. They can think whatever they want. It's legit.

JetBlast77 07-28-2014 06:32 AM

Heres a question. Can the crew desk change a show time for a trip from 1 hour prior to push to 2 hours prior in order to make it "legal" to assign to a FSB? I watched that one happen this morning.

APC225 07-28-2014 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by JetBlast77 (Post 1693569)
Heres a question. Can the crew desk change a show time for a trip from 1 hour prior to push to 2 hours prior in order to make it "legal" to assign to a FSB? I watched that one happen this morning.

Geeeez. That's a good one. What will they think of next. The legality of the assignment is based on both the notification time (4 hours from start of FSB) AND the push time (5 hours from start of FSB). It sounds like they were trying to squeeze in compliance with the first requirement but it would fail to comply with the second.

5-H-2 Without his concurrence, a Pilot shall not be held on standby duty at the airport in excess of four (4) hours and any assigned Flight must be scheduled to depart no later than five (5) hours from the start of his Duty Period.

Airhoss 07-28-2014 06:45 AM

JetBlast,

Apparently the crew desk can do anything they want. Write a PDR call your CPO and talk to your CP about it. The crew desk are a bunch of lying cheating sacks of human excrement. I've had them build me a trip with a deadhead flight that didn't exist, change the departure of a deadhead flight on my ID to make a trip legal and just flat out lie to me multiple times.

These losers at the crew desk need to be reined in.


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