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Old 09-16-2014 | 08:09 PM
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I'm finally getting around to enjoying the frustration that is seniority trip trading and was wondering if anyone know of a resource to explain why a request failed?

I found the "check legality" button, but the info in the pop-up doesn't mean anything to me. Is there a rosetta stone somewhere?

The error is:

This request is NOT LEGAL: 857 6 DAY FREEZE
That's not a flight number in my line or any of my requests BTW.


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Old 09-16-2014 | 08:17 PM
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There is a negotiated 6 day trading freeze during Line Construction....
PBS is still building lines. If you change your schedule now it may cause a conflict with your next month PBS award.

Are you a Half-winger?
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Old 09-16-2014 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Yak02
There is a negotiated 6 day trading freeze during Line Construction....
PBS is still building lines. If you change your schedule now it may cause a conflict with your next month PBS award.

Are you a Half-winger?
Thanks for the quick reply. Not a half-winger, but amazingly this is the first time I've used the trading system.

Once the lines for October are loaded tomorrow AND there are no conflicts with October flying, would the trade go through if I left it submitted?

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Old 09-17-2014 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CRM114
Thanks for the quick reply. Not a half-winger, but amazingly this is the first time I've used the trading system.

Once the lines for October are loaded tomorrow AND there are no conflicts with October flying, would the trade go through if I left it submitted?

Thanks again!
Technically yes.... If no one senior to you took the trip. The request doesn't need to be resubmitted
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Old 09-17-2014 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CRM114
Thanks for the quick reply. Not a half-winger, but amazingly this is the first time I've used the trading system.
Blocking out all trades while PBS is running is not really required. What if a pilot wants to drop a trip? I can see how adding flights at the end of a month right before the solver finishes could cause a problem, but losing 20% of our monthly trip trading is really punishing.

The old UAL Unimatic system was more transparent. You could actually see how many trades were available for each day, and if you inputted a trade and it was legal, it gave it to you instantly. This crazy "black box" system we have now is terrible.

This is definitely something we need to have addressed now, and not wait until the next contract.
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Old 09-18-2014 | 05:11 AM
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Does anyone know if there is a way to move up a trip days before?
If I have a trip on 25th 3day, can I trade it for another 3day that starts on 20th?
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Old 09-18-2014 | 05:27 AM
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Does anyone know if there is a way to move up a trip days before?
If I have a trip on 25th 3day, can I trade it for another 3day that starts on 20th?
Technically yes. In actuality, probably not. The company has decided to essentially turn off trip trading that is not same day with a blanket "no coverage". You never know though, you can always put it in and see what happens!
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Old 09-18-2014 | 07:12 AM
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Ok, thks..... Whatabout when it says "delayed trade".
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Old 09-18-2014 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DOUBLE
Does anyone know if there is a way to move up a trip days before?
If I have a trip on 25th 3day, can I trade it for another 3day that starts on 20th?
Technically yes. In actuality, probably not. The company has decided to essentially turn off trip trading that is not same day with a blanket "no coverage". You never know though, you can always put it in and see what happens!
This has been my experience 99% of the time when trying to trade a trip that is on different days. Could be the exact same trip shifted one day and you get that answer.
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