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sleeves 11-21-2014 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by ron kent (Post 1768101)
Which CAL pilot? The one that was still in JR high when we were burying our dead after 9-11, or the SCAB that was lobbing against us for the stabilization loans?

I would like for you to find one CAL pilot who was in JR. High on 9-11.

Bestglide 11-21-2014 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by ron kent (Post 1768101)
Which CAL pilot? The one that was still in JR high when we were burying our dead after 9-11, or the SCAB that was lobbing against us for the stabilization loans?

Wow that was one of the most tasteless posts I've ever read on apc
Congrats!!!

Pkcola 11-21-2014 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by sleeves (Post 1768114)
I would like for you to find one CAL pilot who was in JR. High on 9-11.

The ones that post on APC seem to still be in Junior High. Full of faulty logic due to age or mental capacity.

Airhoss 11-21-2014 08:02 PM

CALFO starts this ****e storm.

Again, the only reason the question was asked of Smisek was that the interviewer could understand why on Earth a "great and phenomenal" airline like CAL would get involved with the likes of United. It's hilarious.


It's over, all this is doing is driving us further apart and helping MGT.
I agree sleeves,

So why don't you go knock some sense into CALFO if you are really worried about unity. He's the mealy mouthed little twit who was trolling for trouble in the first place.

CALFO 11-22-2014 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 1768523)
CALFO starts this ****e storm.





I agree sleeves,

So why don't you go knock some sense into CALFO if you are really worried about unity. He's the mealy mouthed little twit who was trolling for trouble in the first place.

Hoss,

My post is all about promoting unity. When I see a post that post to a link to a video, the title of which is states that Smisek says Cal would
Be marginalized without United, that is not promoting unity. If we are to take the one sentence title to be a summary of the complete interview, we are missing a lot of what was said.

My point is that you can find a lot of "gems" in the interview that our pilot group can use to disparage one another. One group can feel superior to another. The realty is that both Legacy's needed to merge to thrive in this industry. My point is that no matter where we ended up in SLI, we are all better for this merger. Time to accept and move along.

Kilder 11-22-2014 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by CALFO (Post 1768645)
Hoss,

My post is all about promoting unity. When I see a post that post to a link to a video, the title of which is states that Smisek says Cal would
Be marginalized without United, that is not promoting unity. If we are to take the one sentence title to be a summary of the complete interview, we are missing a lot of what was said.

My point is that you can find a lot of "gems" in the interview that our pilot group can use to disparage one another. One group can feel superior to another. The realty is that both Legacy's needed to merge to thrive in this industry. My point is that no matter where we ended up in SLI, we are all better for this merger. Time to accept and move along.


CALFO...are you really trying to rationalize with Hoss????

This is what they do ....they post some comment that insinuates the grandeur of the LUAL side and the Regionalesque image of the CAL side and when you defend the CAL position from said comments you are called a troll, a divider and an instigator....

But don't give up bro, at some point people of good faith need to stand up and defend their past and where they came from but also being cognizant of the reality that we are one group moving towards a common goal...

Grumble 11-22-2014 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by Kilder (Post 1768670)
CALFO...are you really trying to rationalize with Hoss????

This is what they do ....they post some comment that insinuates the grandeur of the LUAL side and the Regionalesque image of the CAL side and when you defend the CAL position from said comments you are called a troll, a divider and an instigator....

But don't give up bro, at some point people of good faith need to stand up and defend their past and where they came from but also being cognizant of the reality that we are one group moving towards a common goal...

You can't do the first and foster the second. When a LxAL captain starts soap boxing about how great xAL was I immediately stop listening and start counting cars on the highway or trying to mentally fast forward the airplane. If you want to move forward and make this place better and better, stop reliving your glory days. You sound like the high school quarterback still talking about that big game when he's 45. I'm all for helping this company make money (and more importantly us!) but quite frankly, don't give a flip about you defending your past in this juvenile UAL vs CAL fight. (That said the UAL guys are about protecting each other, CAL guys are about the company and themselves). Meanwhile DAL is kicking our ass....

pilotgolfer 11-22-2014 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 1768833)
. (That said the UAL guys are about protecting each other, CAL guys are about the company and themselves). Meanwhile DAL is kicking our ass....

Nice.......all for the sake of unity, right?

Grumble 11-22-2014 01:01 PM



Nice.......all for the sake of unity, right?
Purely my personal observations flying with each side. I came after the merger so the only dog I have in this hunt is unity and success. The vast majority are for team work and long term success but when guys "take sides" that's where they seem to be. That said, and I think a lot have this experience, where the CAL vs UAL attitude seems to be most pervasive in the flight attendants.

Harrier Dude 11-22-2014 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 1768953)
Purely my personal observations flying with each side. I came after the merger so the only dog I have in this hunt is unity and success. The vast majority are for team work and long term success but when guys "take sides" that's where they seem to be. That said, and I think a lot have this experience, where the CAL vs UAL attitude seems to be most pervasive in the flight attendants.



This. Amen.


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