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Old 12-10-2014 | 02:25 PM
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The latest category summary shows 45 DEN 76T FOs. The bottom guy is a 10/97 hire. The DEN 76T BES is subject to a NPDM to close completely. Where will most of these guys bump to? DEN 737, IMO.
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Old 12-10-2014 | 02:37 PM
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Has there been anything put out with the plan for DEN or increased guppy or FIFY flying? Possibly 787 when they get more planes?
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Old 12-10-2014 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer
Has there been anything put out with the plan for DEN or increased guppy or FIFY flying? Possibly 787 when they get more planes?
Yes. Nov Crew Resources Outlook shows overstaffed on the bus and 76T. Understaffed on the 737. Crew Planning can solve both problems by displacing the bus/76T. The only question is when. Latest from CP and C33 reps is probably not until July for the 76T (effective Oct) with possible bus displacement(s) before summer.
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Old 12-10-2014 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jsled
Yes. Nov Crew Resources Outlook shows overstaffed on the bus and 76T. Understaffed on the 737. Crew Planning can solve both problems by displacing the bus/76T. The only question is when. Latest from CP and C33 reps is probably not until July for the 76T (effective Oct) with possible bus displacement(s) before summer.
Wife attended the road show when she was in LAX. Asked (I think it was Howard himself) about any Guppy movement in Denver and was told nothing doing until at least end of next summer's flying season. Subject to change blah blah blah.
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Old 12-10-2014 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by steve0617
Wife attended the road show when she was in LAX. Asked (I think it was Howard himself) about any Guppy movement in Denver and was told nothing doing until at least end of next summer's flying season. Subject to change blah blah blah.
Good gouge. Thanks. Howard actually said DEN 76T would see displacements on one of his weekly updates in Oct. That didn't happen. Crew Planning and Flt Ops had different ideas. But it makes sense. TK is ROLLING!! I haven't seen anything like this since the late 90's. They will be lucky to train all these vacancies by summer, I doubt Crew Planning will throw any more fuel on the fire with displacements.
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Old 12-10-2014 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jsled
TK is ROLLING!! I haven't seen anything like this since the late 90's.
When I was a PI in the 90s we used to have sim sessions that started at midnight and ended at 4am. The only times people weren't in the sims were from 4am to 6am.

It was crazy, but we were hiring 1,000 a year at the time. I don't think I ever saw a new hire class that wasn't at least 24 pilots.
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Old 12-11-2014 | 04:39 AM
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Forgive my ignorance on the subject, but how would the impending retirement exodus affect seniority in Denver?
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Old 12-11-2014 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by JerkStore
Forgive my ignorance on the subject, but how would the impending retirement exodus affect seniority in Denver?
Guessing here.

There are 58 retirements by 04/01/15 listed on the most recent bulletin. Only 5 of those are DEN people. So, DEN isn't going to reduce via retirements at all. And based on the last displacement bid done here on the 76T and the Bus, most pilots seem to be choosing to stay here and bid what's available rather than chase the plane and/or upgrade and commute. Lots of brand new 737 captains from that displacement and probably less than expected went to WB flying in other domiciles.

So, unless they drastically increase NB flying or open a WB fleet here, retirements, at least in the next few years, won't have much of an impact.

But that's just a guess.
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Old 12-11-2014 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by jsled
Good gouge. Thanks. Howard actually said DEN 76T would see displacements on one of his weekly updates in Oct. That didn't happen. Crew Planning and Flt Ops had different ideas. But it makes sense. TK is ROLLING!! I haven't seen anything like this since the late 90's. They will be lucky to train all these vacancies by summer, I doubt Crew Planning will throw any more fuel on the fire with displacements.
The other big issue here is that we really don't know where we're going to get to lift replace the RJ's leaving the system. The number of 757's that we're keeping seems to grow nearly daily. With so much up in the air they'd be silly to issue a displacement bid. Would be a lot like the ridiculous BAT bid process they seem intent on screwing up...
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