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pilot64golfer 02-07-2015 07:40 AM

I have no problem with PBS now. I just use this book.

http://i.imgur.com/2nd9qlC.jpg

BMEP100 02-07-2015 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by XHooker (Post 1821057)
You must be pretty senior. No offense, but IMO you should have had to choose between the two on the first round to give someone else a shot at the one you didn't choose. Seniority should have its privileges, but only to an extent. Congrats, anyway.

I can't argue with your sentiment, having been junior myself once and paying the dues. Hopefully the rules won't change for you when you get 20 plus years under your butt and your pension flops.

If I recall correctly at CAL, not all the vacation periods were awarded on the first go round, so senior guys would have to make some choices on the first go round.

Say hello to your new boss, not the same as your old boss.

rp2pilot 02-07-2015 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by BMEP100 (Post 1821005)
I gave up on the bidding system some time ago and hired someone to do my PBS. He now bids my vacation for me as well. Money well spent.

I have to put blame for this on ALPA. They are the ones that pushed for PBS at CAL and put this silly vacation bid system in to replace one that was simple, worked and everybody got awarded all their vacation if they wanted to bid it all - although not necessarily all the days they wanted.

You can actually hire someone to bid PBS for you :eek: ? I thought I was lazy when I hired someone to do the landscaping ;).

Honestly, I don't think the computer vacation bidding is any less complicated than the old "books and cards" we used to use, but just my opinion. I think people resist anything new and unknown when they're comfortable with an existing system (myself included). I had the old PBS system pretty much nailed, and it took about 6 bid cycles to reach the same comfort level with the new PBS system. Now if I could just get used to Windows 8 :)

XHooker 02-07-2015 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by BMEP100 (Post 1821262)
I can't argue with your sentiment, having been junior myself once and paying the dues. Hopefully the rules won't change for you when you get 20 plus years under your butt and your pension flops.

I'm hoping the rules change back to bidding for one block at a time on the next contract. I honestly don't understand why we're bidding the way we do under the UPA.

If I recall correctly at CAL, not all the vacation periods were awarded on the first go round, so senior guys would have to make some choices on the first go round.
That does kind of ring a bell. That made no sense either.

cal73 02-07-2015 06:14 PM

Wish list.

1.Bid for vacation in the fall. Vacation year starts at the same time, May. I'm fine with that. Just bid earlier for it.

2. Vacation days to be worth 3:45

3. Crew meals provided by Kleins Deli.

Probe 02-08-2015 02:32 AM


Originally Posted by pilot64golfer (Post 1821103)
I have no problem with PBS now. I just use this book.

http://i.imgur.com/2nd9qlC.jpg

Available on Amazon, or downloadable? Do I have to bring my own crayons, or are they included?

I would buy it if it was available.

UAL T38 Phlyer 02-08-2015 05:04 AM


Originally Posted by pilot64golfer (Post 1821103)
I have no problem with PBS now. I just use this book.

http://i.imgur.com/2nd9qlC.jpg

Bravo, Sir, outstanding production values, and one of the funniest things I've ever seen here!

If you seriously made one, it would sell like hotcakes in the Mainliner store.....if not for vacation bidding, then for comedic value.

pilot64golfer 02-08-2015 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer (Post 1821494)
Bravo, Sir, outstanding production values, and one of the funniest things I've ever seen here!

If you seriously made one, it would sell like hotcakes in the Mainliner store.....if not for vacation bidding, then for comedic value.

If I were put in charge of PBS I'd just make it easy to use. Obviously a potentially powerful system, with the worst User Interface I've ever seen in a product so widely used. PBS shouldn't need a user-manual. It should be intuitive.

We need PBS to be a tool, not a programming language.

oldmako 02-08-2015 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by pilot64golfer (Post 1821603)
If I were put in charge of PBS I'd just make it easy to use. Obviously a potentially powerful system, with the worst User Interface I've ever seen in a product so widely used. PBS shouldn't need a user-manual. It should be intuitive.

We need PBS to be a tool, not a programming language.

I'm afraid Sir, that you have just proven yourself wholly unfit for Flight Office and managerial duties. Now just go find your hat and get back to work.
:D

Lambourne 02-08-2015 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by pilot64golfer (Post 1821603)
If I were put in charge of PBS I'd just make it easy to use. Obviously a potentially powerful system, with the worst User Interface I've ever seen in a product so widely used. PBS shouldn't need a user-manual. It should be intuitive.

We need PBS to be a tool, not a programming language.

That's a great idea. I suppose you have developed such a system and are ready for all the UA pilots to beta test? Wait you would not need a test because you would have built the perfect system. Your talents are wasted posting on a forum.......


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