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LostInAsia 02-09-2015 12:54 PM

Landings class
 
I have my first landings class scheduled for tomorrow from 12-6. Do you typically use that entire time or is it normal to finish early?

Greg Bockelman 02-09-2015 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by LostInAsia (Post 1822430)
I have my first landings class scheduled for tomorrow from 12-6. Do you typically use that entire time or is it normal to finish early?

No. An hour brief at most, and two in the box depending on how many other landings people you have involved. I think the current profile takes 45 minutes a person.

Of course, your mileage may .

krudawg 02-09-2015 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by LostInAsia (Post 1822430)
I have my first landings class scheduled for tomorrow from 12-6. Do you typically use that entire time or is it normal to finish early?

The current Landing Class is conducted like a PT. You'll do V1 cuts, Non Precision Approach, Hand flown ILS approach. If you are unlucky enough to have 3 pilots in the Sim, NOBODY can leave early. On the other hand, it is a learning environment and the more you see it performed, the more your brain housing group chisels the maneuver in it's memory blocks

pilot64golfer 02-09-2015 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by krudawg (Post 1822632)
The current Landing Class is conducted like a PT. You'll do V1 cuts, Non Precision Approach, Hand flown ILS approach. If you are unlucky enough to have 3 pilots in the Sim, NOBODY can leave early. On the other hand, it is a learning environment and the more you see it performed, the more your brain housing group chisels the maneuver in it's memory blocks

Seriously? I had to do landings once a long time back and it was reposition on a 3 mile final and we were done in 10 minutes. Three landings in VMC.

krudawg 02-09-2015 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by pilot64golfer (Post 1822666)
Seriously? I had to do landings once a long time back and it was reposition on a 3 mile final and we were done in 10 minutes. Three landings in VMC.

Dude, that was pre Mount San Bruno and now it's post-merger. As a matter of fact, they recently just went to "the new landing class"

Equinox 02-09-2015 09:18 PM

So is there jeopardy or retraining involved if they don't like how you perform?
Or is this just a review for us bunkees to stay proficient

Regularguy 02-10-2015 06:30 AM

ALPA Let it be known when the new class began, yes there is jeopardy. But if you pay attention all the players win in Final Jepardy.

Basically if you can't come up to speed on the maneuvers during the period you will get to stay over or some other form of extra training.

ugleeual 02-10-2015 07:33 AM

Landings class are no longer a quick checkout... You now have to do a mini MV (v1 cuts and approaches with high x winds) to get thru... If you do poorly they put you on a special monitor status and early return for trng from what I heard at TK... So study up.

oldmako 02-10-2015 08:06 AM

Who let the Nazis into TK?

Godwin's in 9! Beat that Charlie Moore!

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Probe 02-10-2015 03:50 PM

Landings class used to be for 55 year old 777 and 400 FO's. Now it might be for a new hire 737 or 756 FO. Maybe the change was needed.


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