UAL growth/used planes article
02-17-2015 | 04:36 PM
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Devil's Advocate: Aren't there 3 legacy carriers that have 10,000 applicants to divvy up, each wanting to hire several hundred a year? With several hundred retiring each year? Oh, plus SWA, Jet Blue, Spirit, Frontier, the fractionals and foreign carriers?
02-17-2015 | 04:40 PM
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United, AA, Delta, SWA won't have pilot shortages. It will be the other airlines.
Pilots don't decide where to go based on 1st year pay. They look at the overall picture.
02-17-2015 | 05:45 PM
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We are rapidly approaching a point where regional flying will be completely unreliable due to their manning issues. Time to replace 2 RJs with one mainline NB.
But I don't expect increased hiring to dwindle the list of qualified pilots much because there will be plenty of new applications. And I'm willing to bet that 10,000 is a very low estimate of current applications on file.
Edit: I just noticed that Endeavor Air and SkyWest are advertising on this website for FOs with signing bonuses. Sweet. That should accelerate the retirement of RJs.
02-17-2015 | 10:27 PM
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Even after years of constant hiring, the stack was still at more than 10,000 when 9/11 happened.
02-18-2015 | 12:22 AM
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We have 75 and 76 aircraft that are now staying...also heard they are talking about retrofit like the 767-400. I think it was 1.1mil per plane so who knows, but it would certainly help sync the fleet.
Hopefully we continue to see increased mainline flying, we need to be in charge of our domestic product, not the regionals. more 319/320 and 737 aircraft are just the ticket. Cut 2 RJ flights per NB flight. Will alleviate congestion as well helping us during bad weather days and all the time in super contested airports.
Hopefully we continue to see increased mainline flying, we need to be in charge of our domestic product, not the regionals. more 319/320 and 737 aircraft are just the ticket. Cut 2 RJ flights per NB flight. Will alleviate congestion as well helping us during bad weather days and all the time in super contested airports.
As an expat contract pilot, the number one question the FO's had was:
"how do I get a job overseas, especially America".
There are 10's of thousands of foreign pilots that would apply to work for us and Delta for our current 1st year pay rates. Uncle Sammy just needs to issue the green cards. They WON't come here to make 19 dollars an hour at Mesa. But 60 bucks an hour is a pay raise for most of them. Some of the dodgier airlines pay Captains that.
There will be no pilot shortage any time soon.
If I were UAL, I would be hiring Delta Connection pilots as fast as I could. And vice versa. The express carriers are hosed.
02-18-2015 | 06:38 AM
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Doesn't matter how many applications we have or don't have. If that stack gets below 3,000 word will get out and the apps will come in. Right now how many qualified pilots don't even apply because they figure it is a waste of time?
02-22-2015 | 07:03 AM
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02-22-2015 | 12:26 PM
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