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Probe 03-26-2015 01:26 AM


Originally Posted by Sunvox (Post 1848050)
Definitely not how it works. Here's my normal monthly bid:

AWARD 2 day trips L--
AWARD 1 day trips L-
AWARD PUJ L
AVOID 752
AVOID 753
AWARD IRO N
AVOID IRO
AWARD FRA H++
AWARD ZUR H+
AWARD MUC H+
AWARD 764 H


I get mostly Frankfurt flying pilot trips and usually one IRO maybe a PUJ rarely a 1 day and never a 2 day.

The PBS logic doesn't go top down in a bid it looks at your 7 pools. Putting L-- first followed by an AVOID "FREEZES" those trips in that pool. PBS then goes through your bid and uses the highest pool trip it can to complete your line. If you look at the reason report you can really see how the logic is working. In my case my pools look like this:

H++ = FRA flying
H+ = ZUR and MUC flying
H = other 764 flying
N = 764 IRO
L = PUJ
L- = 1 day trips
L-- = 2 day trips


A key element to the logic is to use the AWARD followed by AVOID to FREEZE trips in the desired pool.


Did that answer your question or did I misinterpret what you were asking?


P.S. I fancied myself pretty good with PBS, but this month I got a COMPLETION MODE award because I had too high an opinion of my seniority. For the last two months I had no trouble building a purely 764 line so I bid with AVOID all 75 flying and PBS couldn't make it happen so I got hosed big time . . . ah well c'est la vie :rolleyes:

Thanks, that helps a lot. Like I said my BES is small and relatively simple. I can get away with bad habits easier. I did go to completion mode in December, and forgot to bid for reserve.

And thanks CousinEddie.

Winterking04 03-26-2015 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by bigboeings (Post 1846902)
Is there a way to just bid reserve.

Yes, drink beer during the entire bid window. Don't submit a bid. The company will award reserve for the bid period. Then spend the entire month quoting the UPA to scheduling. Listen to them come up with some very interesting interpretations of the English written language. Refuse assignment, demand an order to fly. Two hours later have the FODM verify that you were correct. Of course this all happens after all involved have tried to bully you into taking the assignment. Repeat every two days. :D

APC225 03-26-2015 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer (Post 1848317)
Anybody want to post up how to bid reserve for a commuter? At least a general idea for 756

Can't really control commutability. If you want reserve select the "R" box instead of the "L" box under bid group. If you you want the most weekend days off here's a bid group. It is a "will not fail" BG in that it will get the most weekend days off down to and including none, depending on seniority, and will award a reserve line.

AWARD RSV Mon 0001 - Thu 2359 01Apr 0001 - 30Apr 2359 [H++]
AWARD FDO Fri 01Apr 0001 - 30Apr 2359 [H++]
AWARD RSV Fri 01Apr 0001 - 30Apr 2359 [H+]
AWARD RSV 01Apr 0001 - 30Apr 2359 [L--]

Firsttimeflyer 03-27-2015 06:45 AM

Thanks APC

Another question I have is how often a global reserve has their RDOs converted and they get called to fly. I'd really like to be able to go home on those 2 days off. I'm sure it's good to look at open time and the number of reserves available on those 2 days, just curious if those days off get rolled a lot

pilotgolfer 03-27-2015 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer (Post 1850794)
Thanks APC

Another question I have is how often a global reserve has their RDOs converted and they get called to fly. I'd really like to be able to go home on those 2 days off. I'm sure it's good to look at open time and the number of reserves available on those 2 days, just curious if those days off get rolled a lot

It happens on occasion . It's more common during the summer.

Firsttimeflyer 03-27-2015 06:35 PM

Okay thanks guys, hopefully I'll be holding a line sooner than later with the amount of new hires rolling in below me

SurfnFlyer 03-29-2015 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1850476)
Can't really control commutability. If you want reserve select the "R" box instead of the "L" box under bid group. If you you want the most weekend days off here's a bid group. It is a "will not fail" BG in that it will get the most weekend days off down to and including none, depending on seniority, and will award a reserve line.

AWARD RSV Mon 0001 - Thu 2359 01Apr 0001 - 30Apr 2359 [H++]
AWARD FDO Fri 01Apr 0001 - 30Apr 2359 [H++]
AWARD RSV Fri 01Apr 0001 - 30Apr 2359 [H+]
AWARD RSV 01Apr 0001 - 30Apr 2359 [L--]

What does the last line "AWARD RSV 01Apr 0001 - 30Apr 2359 [L--]" accomplish?

Scrappy 03-29-2015 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by SurfnFlyer (Post 1852316)
What does the last line "AWARD RSV 01Apr 0001 - 30Apr 2359 [L--]" accomplish?

Nothing. That autopopulates in a reserve bid group unlike a line bid group where you must end with an award statement.

Hilltopper89 03-29-2015 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by 130drvr (Post 1844769)
Award work L--

Yes, but I'd also rank order the trips with this line as the last. For instance, Award Airport Layover LAS H++, then Award Airport Layover SEA H+, etc. The key is to have a bid group that won't fail but still separates the trips you desire more into the higher pools.


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