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Why is ALPA so unreasonable?
I had to giggle at the "special message" meant to offer more "color and context" to operation issues. Thankfully the MEC saw through the "bag of air" being offered in the LOA. The promise of add pay is an empty promise when the payroll system is so crippled that you'll never see it anyway.
When negotiations fail with the bargaining agent, I guess the only other option is to go directly to the membership. Textbook move! |
Originally Posted by awax
(Post 1857628)
I had to giggle at the "special message" meant to offer more "color and context" to operation issues. Thankfully the MEC saw through the "bag of air" being offered in the LOA. The promise of add pay is an empty promise when the payroll system is so crippled that you'll never see it anyway.
When negotiations fail with the bargaining agent, I guess the only other option is to go directly to the membership. Textbook move! |
Originally Posted by El10
(Post 1857645)
If you cut the emotion out of it, he really just did state the facts.
"...When I'm able, I want to offer you more..." I'm confused. Blaming the MEC for not letting the pilots get more add pay while not addressing the issues that led to the rejection is decidedly one sided to me. I'll just accept that the MEC no longer found it "reasonably practicable" to work under MOU 22. |
Originally Posted by El10
(Post 1857645)
If you cut the emotion out of it, he really just did state the facts.
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Originally Posted by krudawg
(Post 1857700)
ALPA operates with one goal in mind - To protect the pilot group. Sometimes that might not be apparent to all the pilots but you can be darn sure that the decision was not made by one ALPA rep. It was debated by the MEC and the decision was made. I can't say that I have agreed with ALPA all the time but one thing I do know is that they are looking after OUR best interest. Howard operates by the marching orders and talking points given to him by management.
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Originally Posted by krudawg
(Post 1857700)
ALPA operates with one goal in mind - To protect the pilot group. Sometimes that might not be apparent to all the pilots but you can be darn sure that the decision was not made by one ALPA rep. It was debated by the MEC and the decision was made. I can't say that I have agreed with ALPA all the time but one thing I do know is that they are looking after OUR best interest. Howard operates by the marching orders and talking points given to him by management.
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Originally Posted by awax
(Post 1857628)
Thankfully the MEC saw through the "bag of air" being offered in the LOA.
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Originally Posted by El10
(Post 1857721)
You missed the point. The point was that yes the LOA paid more and was a win for the pilots verse the MOU and current book. Zero downside. Also, LOA or no LOA it does not speed up the broken IT, arbitrated decisions, or scheduler training.
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Originally Posted by awax
(Post 1857770)
Yet the MEC unanimously rejected the LOA, don't you find that curious? Maybe they also felt that there was zero downside to rejecting it. After all, without IT, award compliance, and training the pilots have zero chance to see the increases.
It doesn't matter if we fix a dent in the car if the car isn't running. |
Originally Posted by Blockoutblockin
(Post 1857704)
Thank you for this. As far as I am concerned the company can pound sand until they begin to act in good faith and abide by the contract and every friggin arbitrator decision. Until then, have a nice day.
I am really tired of having to spend my time off figuring out my pay. So, I'd rather that ALPA not negotiate too earnestly on another "good deal" right now. Whatever bonus or overtime mechanisms we have, they need to be clearly understood and easily explained to the pilots. Now, I never accept an assignment over and above the normal schedule unless the pay is stipulated and put in comments section of pairing. |
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