Why is ALPA so unreasonable?
04-07-2015 | 04:35 PM
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Why is ALPA so unreasonable?
I had to giggle at the "special message" meant to offer more "color and context" to operation issues. Thankfully the MEC saw through the "bag of air" being offered in the LOA. The promise of add pay is an empty promise when the payroll system is so crippled that you'll never see it anyway.
When negotiations fail with the bargaining agent, I guess the only other option is to go directly to the membership. Textbook move!
When negotiations fail with the bargaining agent, I guess the only other option is to go directly to the membership. Textbook move!
04-07-2015 | 05:16 PM
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I had to giggle at the "special message" meant to offer more "color and context" to operation issues. Thankfully the MEC saw through the "bag of air" being offered in the LOA. The promise of add pay is an empty promise when the payroll system is so crippled that you'll never see it anyway.
When negotiations fail with the bargaining agent, I guess the only other option is to go directly to the membership. Textbook move!
When negotiations fail with the bargaining agent, I guess the only other option is to go directly to the membership. Textbook move!
04-07-2015 | 06:32 PM
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"...When I'm able, I want to offer you more..."
I'm confused.
Blaming the MEC for not letting the pilots get more add pay while not addressing the issues that led to the rejection is decidedly one sided to me. I'll just accept that the MEC no longer found it "reasonably practicable" to work under MOU 22.
04-07-2015 | 06:39 PM
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ALPA operates with one goal in mind - To protect the pilot group. Sometimes that might not be apparent to all the pilots but you can be darn sure that the decision was not made by one ALPA rep. It was debated by the MEC and the decision was made. I can't say that I have agreed with ALPA all the time but one thing I do know is that they are looking after OUR best interest. Howard operates by the marching orders and talking points given to him by management.
04-07-2015 | 06:44 PM
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ALPA operates with one goal in mind - To protect the pilot group. Sometimes that might not be apparent to all the pilots but you can be darn sure that the decision was not made by one ALPA rep. It was debated by the MEC and the decision was made. I can't say that I have agreed with ALPA all the time but one thing I do know is that they are looking after OUR best interest. Howard operates by the marching orders and talking points given to him by management.
04-07-2015 | 07:12 PM
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ALPA operates with one goal in mind - To protect the pilot group. Sometimes that might not be apparent to all the pilots but you can be darn sure that the decision was not made by one ALPA rep. It was debated by the MEC and the decision was made. I can't say that I have agreed with ALPA all the time but one thing I do know is that they are looking after OUR best interest. Howard operates by the marching orders and talking points given to him by management.
04-07-2015 | 07:14 PM
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Agree. The company cheats pilots out of pay on 117 extensions. Pilots stop extending. The company cancels flights and loses money. The company offers to stop cheating us on 117 extensions. We say yes--but to stop cheating us everywhere in the UPA, not just in 117 extensions. The company is confused because it doesn't see the connection. It's all connected because it's one UPA. How about DH seat assignments. Pay claims. uSource receipts. FIFO. Opaque "min reserve coverage". OE captains reassigning IROs and FOs contrary to PBS award. I'm glad the union said enough already.
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04-07-2015 | 08:44 PM
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Yet the MEC unanimously rejected the LOA, don't you find that curious? Maybe they also felt that there was zero downside to rejecting it. After all, without IT, award compliance, and training the pilots have zero chance to see the increases.
04-08-2015 | 04:56 AM
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04-08-2015 | 04:42 PM
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I am really tired of having to spend my time off figuring out my pay. So, I'd rather that ALPA not negotiate too earnestly on another "good deal" right now.
Whatever bonus or overtime mechanisms we have, they need to be clearly understood and easily explained to the pilots.
Now, I never accept an assignment over and above the normal schedule unless the pay is stipulated and put in comments section of pairing.
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