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05-03-2015 | 06:14 PM
#131
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Simple fact is we are all on the same seniority list and any "Special Deals" negotiated by Ben has an impact on all United pilots regardless of legacy affiliation.
05-03-2015 | 06:25 PM
#132
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05-03-2015 | 06:26 PM
#133
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So if Ben gets his special deal in IAH do I get a special deal in DEN when my number comes up? Fair is fair right?
05-04-2015 | 07:45 AM
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Not sure who did/did not attend IAH town hall meeting. I snuck in there b/c I thought there would be filet mignon for everyone. Disappointed to say the least not even PB&J, but I stuck around to hear what was being said
Summary from Howard, Greg, Beau, and Tracy (scheduling)
With oil down flights into IAH are down some 20%. They are going to shift to that flying to other bases after summer. ORD, SFO, IAD
Each captain displaced equates to 5 training cycles. They value that around 30 grand a cycle so 150 grand per captain. They recoup that after 4-6 months.
Didn't get a specific on number of displacements. Only captain more than f/o. Also they don't want to over displace so IAH may not receive the heft that everyone thinks.
Lots of talk about moral and how SRM was rampant every day. No need to displace due to attrition and vacanccy bids and hiring etc..maybe TDY temporarily or something as I think Den has 320 guys being tdy'd into base after they displaced. Few guys pretty vocal and upset. Even a nice 10 minute one ranging from uniforms to pay stubs.
Howard said something about putting out an email with all info and numbers as they want to be transparent as possible.
That was the majority of it. Minus the steaks.
Summary from Howard, Greg, Beau, and Tracy (scheduling)
With oil down flights into IAH are down some 20%. They are going to shift to that flying to other bases after summer. ORD, SFO, IAD
Each captain displaced equates to 5 training cycles. They value that around 30 grand a cycle so 150 grand per captain. They recoup that after 4-6 months.
Didn't get a specific on number of displacements. Only captain more than f/o. Also they don't want to over displace so IAH may not receive the heft that everyone thinks.
Lots of talk about moral and how SRM was rampant every day. No need to displace due to attrition and vacanccy bids and hiring etc..maybe TDY temporarily or something as I think Den has 320 guys being tdy'd into base after they displaced. Few guys pretty vocal and upset. Even a nice 10 minute one ranging from uniforms to pay stubs.
Howard said something about putting out an email with all info and numbers as they want to be transparent as possible.
That was the majority of it. Minus the steaks.
05-04-2015 | 07:49 AM
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Right. In a perfect world they do the vacancy bid 1st and as it goes more junior, more Guppy Captains can just move over to the Bus and stay in the same status without having to leave the base.
To have guys surplussed 1st then have a vacancy bid after and have it go junior to guys that could have bumped to it is certainly disruptive.
To have guys surplussed 1st then have a vacancy bid after and have it go junior to guys that could have bumped to it is certainly disruptive.
05-04-2015 | 09:39 AM
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This is just political fodder so that some people can claim that its discrimination against LCAL pilots to not give them special consideration, despite 14 categories being displaced affecting predominantly LUAL pilots in the last 3 years with no special consideration. This one where there are only 2 categories affecting LCAL pilots they will claim its bias against LCAL pilots for not giving them special consideration.
Then they will point to the MOU for base closures as the proof, but its not because its a completely different type of event.
