Borrowing vacation from next year?

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05-27-2015, 12:44 PM

fanaticalflyer

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Borrowing vacation from next year?

Has anyone done this - Borrowing vacation from next year's vacation allotment?

I would like to drop a trip in the following month by using vacation, but not sure how that works. I'm not trying to do a vacation drop for emergency leave or a life event. Just trying to use next year's vacation to get a trip that I need off, that falls outside of a standard vacation drop request that you would do thru the CPO.

Can this be done in the monthly bid or is this a different process?

Any info or points of contact?

Also, Has anyone had luck being able to drop a trip on the 20th, when trip trading opens for the following month? Coverage always sucks, so can never do it.

Thanks

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05-27-2015, 01:35 PM

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if you accomplish a vacation drop the days come out of next years allotment.

05-27-2015, 02:03 PM

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It's done through normal STT process. Select the trip to trade then there will be an option to select nothing (personal drop no pay) or select vacation. Has to have adequate reserve coverage on all the days which, since UPA, is now hidden from our view. If you login as an FA though you can pull up pilot reserve coverage, or so I've heard. Go figure.

05-27-2015, 02:30 PM

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Thanks for that info. Then it's the same ole "lack of reserve coverage" issue! I've never seen enough coverage. I guess you can go thru this STT process at any time then?

05-27-2015, 04:05 PM

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Thanks for that info. Then it's the same ole "lack of reserve coverage" issue! I've never seen enough coverage. I guess you can go thru this STT process at any time then?

Yep, although your chance of actually seeing it is about as likely as running in to Elvis on an Amsterdam layover. About two years ago, I requested a vacation drop for each trip of the month for 11 months in succession until I finally got a drop. So, with and average of 5 trips a month, that's a 1 in 55 chance of actually getting a vacation drop. Your mileage may vary..

05-27-2015, 05:20 PM

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I got a 3 day Vacation Drop last month....it can happen but it is rare!

05-27-2015, 07:24 PM

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I guess my last question is do you submit on the 20th and if and when it runs on the 24th and it says denied, do you keep submitting every day, hoping for reserve coverage to open up?

05-27-2015, 07:51 PM

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I guess my last question is do you submit on the 20th and if and when it runs on the 24th and it says denied, do you keep submitting every day, hoping for reserve coverage to open up?

Yes. That happened to me a few months ago. In fact, I had completely forgotten it was in STT and half way through the month I got an alert that the trip had been dropped. Someone might do a straight pickup, or if a reserve trades a day that increases the coverage it can happen. You don't have to "keep submitting" it though. Just put it in once and every four hours it the system will look at it.

05-28-2015, 09:54 AM

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Thanks for that info. Then it's the same ole "lack of reserve coverage" issue! I've never seen enough coverage. I guess you can go thru this STT process at any time then?

best chance of an effective drop (from what i've heard) is on the first day/hour of trades (24th)… after that its virtually impossible without CPO intervention.