HT89,

IMO, I wonder if any Houston Airbus first officers will get a (secondary) pump. With only a total of 45 to 50 FO's getting displaced, over three rounds, I expect the company will stop sending the eight or so new hires a month there and just absorb the additional first officers. The next large narrowbody bid with West Coast Airbus opportunities will likely draw at least 15 first officers out of Houston anyway.

As a junior West Coast commuter into Houston, I wouldn't mind positive space commuting until I can get based at home, I just don't see the company wanting to shell out for a situation that will right itself pretty quickly. Obviously, the captain numbers are quite different

According to Howard's message, the numbers include attrition until the summer of 2017. So they have calculated how many will leave and they aren't bumping those people. That's why its only 150 Captains instead of 210.

Got the email today - I'm in. 40 y.o., retired AF. Looking forward to getting started on the second act.

What was your interview and CJO call date?

I'm in too. 45 years old, retired Marine. Interview 7 May, CJO 15 May. See you there!

8 and 15 May

Roger - Thanks! I was 14 and 20 May. Was told to expect mid July.

Glenny, since we're both 45, what's your last four of your SS# start with? I'm 7XXX. Not sure they use birth month, but I'll be 46 late July. Just curious to see who'll get first pick of iron.

Strictly DOB in class.

I turned 45 in February so you're the grand old man so far. Although I know we have a least one furlough returnee. I live in TUS and mainly looking for fastest way to one leg commute. I do have the option of commuting from PHX as well but not preferred.

Are you in the 7 July class or do you have a later class date?

Welcome Okawner. Where are you looking to go?

I commuted out of TUS prior to moving recently. Very challenging with mainly RJs and a large population of commuters. Be ready for many trips up to PHX...where it is challenging as well.

Well, did my TAP brief with military yesterday. Strange to do it in civilian clothes. Looks like I have three more working days to wrap things up there.

Can't wait to learn what the next few years will be like.

Still wish we had a better idea on class dates. You guys said 1st day mock aircraft select. 2nd day we actually pick what we want. And somewhere in the second week we'll get our SIMs scheduled.

I had heard several posts about a wait time between indoc and aircraft classes (SIMs). I also heard class size is dropping a bit for the summer, from 26 to 20ish? Wonder what that will mean for classes?

That's changed, mock bid and live bid are now on day 1.

Really?? No time given to see what the drop is and think about it. As of last summer is was on the second day. If you're in your 40s don't get too excited. There very well could be some 50 something's in your class. Good luck!

Just finished basic indoc (BI). I can confirm that mock and real bids are now day 1. Found out bases when we showed up then did a mock bid. The actual bid was in the afternoon. as far as time between BI and aircraft training my class had anywhere from 3 days to 20+ days in between.

What aircraft and bases were available?

Yep, 7 July

IAH would be the easiest commute right now (live in OKC), but it sounds like that probably won't happen out of training. I'll probably try for 73 or 320 to have some flexibility when I can move west. My long term goal is to get to LAX so I can move back to the west coast.

7 Jul Class
 

Most junior man as of 6/14/15
737 nyc fo 12214

737 lax fo
6/4/15 Junior man Seniority 11898
320 lax fo
11746

737 SFO fo
12059
320 SFO fo
11872


The 737 & 320 LAX and SFO bases are pretty junior. Shouldn't take long to get in. Probably less than a year the way things are going. It all depends on the frequency of vacancy bids.
Congrats and welcome.


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Really appreciate all the advice guys, from everyone! Helps to have some idea... even if it doesn't pan out, its still something to help figure out what life will look like.

Anyone wearing smart jeans? Or is everyone wearing plain uniform type pants and shirts?

I think skinny jeans are allowed now.

Skinny jeans? Only for skinny people? :D

Jeans and polo shirts are more than sufficient for daily training during BI and sims... Majority did wear slacks and long sleeve for the final day... BI and sim check.

5-737s to EWR
5-756s to EWR
3-320s to DCA

Pretty sure the class after us had same metal and bases

Was the wait time for class aircraft specific?

737 - 2 had the weekend off and the rest about 16 days
320 - about a week
756 - week to two weeks

I'm curious about how trips are put together. For example. if you're DCA-based on a three-day trip you're basically shuttling back and forth between out-bases and DCA and not hitting other hubs with nothing in between right? Also during bidding, besides days on/off do you get to bid where the overnight or is it luck of the draw?


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Lets say you are on the A320 in DC...expect to go anywhere in North America and not do DC turns. Leave base for three days and then come back (in general).

Sure, you can request specific overnights in PBS and weigh them how you see fit...the luck of the draw comes in with your seniority.

Thanks Macdacpilot. So on any given day I'm assuming a mix of outbases and other hubs (e.g DCA-IND-DEN-MCI RON) and transcontinental (e.g. DCA-SEA RON). Sound right?


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Soooooo... we're supposed to received more info when? This week coming up?

Just got the email with the information for the class. In the welcome letter it states to contact them for a positive-space round trip ticket with a return leg after 3:30 on the 5th day of training of the first week.

Are we expected to travel home after the first week?
What about travel back home after BI is complete?

Just checking to see what to do before emailing them back with my travel request. Thanks!

Positive space to/from training. Most people go home but you don't have to check out from your hotel. After the first week you take care of your own travel arrangements. You can stay if you want but no body from my class 2 years ago stayed in town.
Welcome to United!

you make arrangements to/from BI with the new hire office… then once you get your ID and have access to the United systems (EmployeeRes and Email) you'll book Positive Space (PS5) tickets to/from home and training location using EmployRes and then get them approved by the Pilot Service Center via email or phone… easy. Hotels for BI are booked by the new hire office automatically…

Don't PS5 to LHR, unless that is your home of record. It doesn't work out well.

Let me guess.....somebody tried to sneek one by the Pilot Service Center and they were on Probation?

Dumb.

We had a guy fired from my new hire class. They told us no less than 20 times that you couldn't PS any place other than your home of record or your domicile. Poor Carlos had to press to test...good thing he never resigned from his previous employer. 8 years later, he is still there.

Was that the guy that was specifically told not to go to LAS?