Hostile work environment?
 

While we wait on new DAL threads, here's one for the sake of discussion.

Let's say we're on duty and deadheading on a company aircraft with (free) streaming entertainment, in uniform, and in public view. Using a company supplied iPad, you logon to the company supplied streaming entertainment and select an action movie.

Having never seen the movie you're interested in the plot development, when suddenly, a rape-ish forced sex scene with extended full fontal nudity and "simulated" rough sex ensues. Interested in the set design, lighting, and depth of field used in the shot, you can't look away.

About that time, a flight attendant taps you on the shoulder to offer a drink when you both share a moment realizing what's on the screen.

Have you:

1.) Created a hostile work environment for her? Would the paying passenger do the same if they were watching the movie instead?

2.) Both been subject to a hostile work environment created by UAL's presentation of soft-core porn while on duty.

3.) No big deal.


Discuss..........:D

It would probably be wise to use company supplied material for company supplied material.(Not passenger material)

What does it matter? The he-said-she-said around the mahogany table is always a loser.

However, it is company supplied material as they loaded it onto their entertainment system what they deem appropriate material for semi-public viewing. WRT to a coworker, she initiated her presence within your static personal bubble. As a professionally trained employee she is fully aware of this dynamic. Unless you forcefully held the screen up to her face saying, so waddya think? I'm not sure what could be done.

I would be more concerned about the litigious parent who says you irreparably harmed their child especially since they know the employee's company has very deep pockets and that company can be easily identified because you were "in uniform, and in public view" (as you say) and presumably know better (the lawyer will say) than to expose minors to porn, regardless that the scene was sudden and unexpected. People love to sue big companies.

DH in uniform? Mistake number one.

You want folly? Here's folly...

You're in uniform as described and she sees something even tamer than described and is offended. She's probably got a case.

Next situation. You're in uniform watching full on gonzo porn and you hold the screen up to her and say "how about me and you get some of this on?" No case. Why? Because you are a UAL pilot DHing on Delta. You cannot create a hostile work environment if you don't work together.

Everyone feel better about the folly that is "being offended".

So to re-cap, everyone is a victim!

BTW, none of what I described happened, just food for thought. The movie however is real and is being streamed onboard UAL aircraft. Aside from the porn, there are enough beheadings to make ISIS proud.

Working together with dignity and respect my fellow co-workers. :rolleyes:

Just to be difficult:

I think most if not all the films on the plane "have been edited for content and formatted to fit this screen."

I think even the streaming ones have been edited down for the general public (PG-13 maybe).

Is that what you think or have you watched all the films? The point of this thread is that there ARE films that are firmly R rated. The film I watched contained violent sex scene with full nudity, no way I'd want my kids watching that.

The company has a history of disciplinary action for employees who have had objectionable material in their possession at work, namely girly magazines. The video streamed in view of employees on duty as "entertainment" is far more dark and explicit. Oh the hilarious irony

so what is the movie you speak of?

and what if you are watching "Airplane" and the autopilot scene comes on.

The 300 movie? Had to fast forward quick thru that scene as I was in the middle seat.

Yep, that's the one. Eva Green is a hottie, but no employee would be given a pass for showing that at work. It's just ironic, especially when you consider how much energy UAL expends promoting gay rights.

If you are this concerned, why don't you call an ALPA attorney?

Call an attorney to explain that I find something ironic? Pass.

Kind of silly isn't it?

You could file a complaint yourself about workplace hostility, that the video violates the "working together guidelines", with the graphic content.

Although you are not required to watch that movie, you are required to work in the environment where customers do watch it. That would include deadheading next to someone that might watch it, or a non rev- flight where your kids are exposed to it.

Some movie content does slip by the screeners. Years ago I complained about the content of a couple movies.

Believe it or not, the company actually took the complaint seriously and looked into it. The changed some of the parameters of what is acceptable with the company that screens the movies for them.

How about everybody puts their big people pants on and quit being offended by stupid stuff?

What?! Having the opportunity to sue is what makes America great!



:rolleyes: :mad:

No ******. Complaining to the company about movie content? Seriously? Maybe we should put bibles in all the seat back pockets.

So did this actually happen or what? The suspense is killing me.

There is a reason why L-UAL had to call the flight deck a "flight deck" instead of a "cockpit". You guys still have to do that at the "new" UAL? I was shown the door before the merger and curious minds would like to know.

Ahhhh.....Korans???!!! Hello....

Didn't know I was offending so many by watching naked and afraid

You were fired? What for?

I also have seen some strong R-rated content on aircrafts AV system. Thought inappropriate for similar reason. I turned it off

Nope, laid off. I was MX at the time. SFOMM. When the MX bases in OAK and IND were closed in BK I lost my job. Got recalled a year later but declined, separated and went flying, finishing what I started as a teenager. I start upgrade class at my current shop in September.

Good for you. Hope it works out.

I enjoy firing up an SOA or Dexter marathon on my 17" for my Econ+ friends, then traipsing to the back galley for an hour or so to hang with some Coworkers. TV-MA DLSV Friendly.

Thank you.

First,

The company puts the movies on the airplane, not the pilots. We don't get a vote on that stuff, neither does ALPA.

Second, the company has issued no guidance against NOT watching the entertainment while DHing or on company business. Quite the contrary, they have given us instrctions and reimburse us for the expense.

Third, the company has no policy against DHing in public

Fourth, the company has no policy against using the IPAD for entertainment value while DHing, non-reving, or traveling on company business.

If the company doesn't like the movies we watch on their Ipads, and on company time, and in the company uniform, then the company would need to remove "racey" and potentially offensive movies from the plane.

Also, we have no policy against farting, burping, belching, sneezing, quaffing, sneering, jeering, or doing other potentially offensive behavior, so this all subjective stuff is just, well subjective.

Now, if the Captain of the flight, is forcing his FO to view porn, it might be a hostile work environment. If the Captain has an anti-Koran book and makes his Moslum co pilot read we might have a problem. If the Captain (Democrat) makes his Republican co pilot read Obama's speaches we may not only have a hostile work environment, but we may have a valid case for fitness for duty.