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Originally Posted by strfyr51 (Post 1978106)

Let's add their slowness in adapting to the current situation. They KNEW from the jump that their IT system which was based on Servers to a data Dump wouldn't fill the Bill. They Knew it Weeks befoe the last test, when they did the last Data test and the entire system crashed.. The new computer center at Elk Grove was already under construction. The Electronic log book is getting the once over by the FAA and it will work OR?
We'll quickly adopt the ELB United (S-UA) is already using.
I don't necessarily think Management was in over their heads as much as I think they were stubborn in wanting to ONLY do things Continental's way when much of S-CO's stuff wasn't "UP TO Snuff" for the operation we're running. (and it's still not!)

What's the difference between AMIS and SCEPTRE from a maintenance point of view?

Why not migrate sCO to AMIS, and then once everybody is on an ELB, migrate to SCEPTRE if that was to be the end-state?

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Originally Posted by sweptback (Post 1978136)

Scepter has plenty of scalability to it. I belive DAL has recently migrated to Scepter also. Has anyone used the new ELB on the 777 yet? How does it compare to the old ELB?

I think Smizek put "yes men" all around him. to both protect him and inoculate him from the peasants. the result was a man lost in his own ivory tower of incompetence surrounded by a quagmire of underperformers and underachievers.

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Originally Posted by UALinIAH (Post 1975176)

Wow line pilots all cozy with the suits!

Personally I don't believe squat that a suit tells me. If it's not painted in our colors on our ramp, or listed in our contract, I tend to take everything they say with a grain of salt.

Over the last 20+ yrs I've heard lots of suits say lots of things and most have been BS. It carries about as much weight as a TK rumor.

Listen, I've had lunch with two former airline CEO's. One Kellner, and one Gordon. It's OK to speak with the suits. They won't lie to you (they can't.) I woudn't disbeleive things senior managers or CEO's say, I would couch it, chew on it, and think about it. Sometimes they say things to get you to repeat them, other times it's different. it's all about the relationship. It's really up to you if you want to believe someone or not, it's also up to you weahter you should repeat something or not.

I wouldn't talk to either Jeff due to his arrogance or Lorenzo due to his breaking of ALPA. But, anyone else, I'd entertain what they had to say over lunch or a scotch. I actually had a captain invite Lorenzo into the cockpit. I left and went for a walk around the terminal. Same happened with Smizek. I went to the lav for while....seemed appropriate.

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Originally Posted by baseball (Post 1978298)

Listen, I've had lunch with two former airline CEO's. One Kellner, and one Gordon. It's OK to speak with the suits. They won't lie to you (they can't.)

Um, sure.

FWIW, I've had an airline CEO directly and personally lie to my face and have it exposed ---very publicly--- as a lie exactly a week later.

Some of these claims would be a little more creditable if you'd included a selfie. Having dinner or drinks with a couple hundred of the CEO's most loyal employees doesn't count.

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Originally Posted by sweptback (Post 1978136)

The answer lies in the age old problems of Silos within the airline (and most large companies) and the lack of leadership on the top of those silos.

It would have been extra work for the Maintenance division to migrate the sub CO 777s over to AMIS and then start working on getting an ELB for SCEPTRE. That work would have cost Maintenance time and money as a division so they didn't want to do it. Unfortunately the buffoonery of our leadership lets such "good for the division - bad for the airline" decisions go all the time! So all of the increased crew cost that Flt Ops dealt with, all of the lost revenue due to extra DH segments, and all of the QOL destruction that the pilots endured dramatically exceeded the cost that would have been borne by Maintenance, but that doesn't matter. Maintenance still came in on budget!!