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intrepidcv11 10-02-2015 12:25 PM

Coddling a traitor
 
Can anyone in IAH give a rational reason as to why a turncoat worthy of at best being Benedict Arnold's chamber pot maid is being considered for reinstatement into ALPA?

rp2pilot 10-02-2015 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by intrepidcv11 (Post 1984135)
Can anyone in IAH give a rational reason as to why a turncoat worthy of at best being Benedict Arnold's chamber pot maid is being considered for reinstatement into ALPA?

Dues money?

oldmako 10-02-2015 01:25 PM

Culture???

AllenAllert 10-02-2015 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by intrepidcv11 (Post 1984135)
Can anyone in IAH give a rational reason as to why a turncoat worthy of at best being Benedict Arnold's chamber pot maid is being considered for reinstatement into ALPA?

Show up and voice your opinion - the leadership at the Houston LEC has always been suspect and you should let them know if this happens you'll work to make sure they don't get re-elected. It's not a cultural thing it's a leadership problem wanting to return to the ways of Fred and the deal making.

Do you have the resolution or a copy of the application? Who's sponsoring the guy?

UALinIAH 10-02-2015 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by AllenAllert (Post 1984200)
Show up and voice your opinion - the leadership at the Houston LEC has always been suspect and you should let them know if this happens you'll work to make sure they don't get re-elected. It's not a cultural thing it's a leadership problem wanting to return to the ways of Fred and the deal making.

Do you have the resolution or a copy of the application? Who's sponsoring the guy?

It's a TON of drama and lots of political mudslinging with elections coming up. I'm not airing names on this public forum. Get on the UALPilots forum and you can read all about it. It's free and open to all non-scab UAL pilots.

intrepidcv11 10-02-2015 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by AllenAllert (Post 1984200)
Show up and voice your opinion - the leadership at the Houston LEC has always been suspect and you should let them know if this happens you'll work to make sure they don't get re-elected. It's not a cultural thing it's a leadership problem wanting to return to the ways of Fred and the deal making.

Do you have the resolution or a copy of the application? Who's sponsoring the guy?

The reps aren't running for reelection Staller.

UALinIAH 10-02-2015 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by intrepidcv11 (Post 1984235)
The reps aren't running for reelection Staller.

The Chairman gotted displaced and is off to training next month for his EWR 756 slot anyway.

Birddog 10-02-2015 03:16 PM

If you would browse the ALPA CB&L and the UAL MEC Policy Manual once in a while you would understand this is no C-171 conspiracy. The application is being considered per policy.There is no one sponsoring him because that is not required and it really has nothing to with the current LC leadership.

Furthermore none of the LEC are running for reelection so you don't even need to concern yourself with them for much longer.

There will be a vote on his membership at the 21 October LC meeting. The council even required the individual to attend that meeting per policy.

Dogg

intrepidcv11 10-02-2015 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by Birddog (Post 1984246)
If you would browse the ALPA CB&L and the UAL MEC Policy Manual once in a while you would understand this is no C-171 conspiracy. The application is being considered per policy.There is no one sponsoring him because that is not required and it really has nothing to with the current LC leadership.

Furthermore none of the LEC are running for reelection so you don't even need to concern yourself with them for much longer.

There will be a vote on his membership at the 21 October LC meeting. The council even required the individual to attend that meeting per policy.

Dogg

Fair enough, but the horrific history of 171 makes it impossible for me to have faith the correct action will be done. Even giving goat boy the chance makes me ralf.

Birddog 10-02-2015 04:10 PM

I understand Intrepid. But trust me with all the eyeballs on this one it will be handled correctly.

On another note as UALinIAH pointed out above we have entered a new low at C-171 with the current election. Check out the shenanigans at ualpilotsforum or the CALForum. Hopefully, this too shall pass after the election.

Dogg

AllenAllert 10-02-2015 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by UALinIAH (Post 1984245)
The Chairman gotted displaced and is off to training next month for his EWR 756 slot anyway.

The prior poster doesn't know there is an election about to go on down in Houston. BS has burned just about every bridge out there to continue his Black vs Blue division. Do you think he expected the discontent/candour over the TS application request for membership as that was likely his parting shot.

intrepidcv11 10-02-2015 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by AllenAllert (Post 1984314)
The prior poster doesn't know there is an election about to go on down in Houston. BS has burned just about every bridge out there to continue his Black vs Blue division. Do you think he expected the discontent/candour over the TS application request for membership as that was likely his parting shot.

Actually the prior poster is well aware there is an election Staller. Btw your last sentence above is at best gibberish.

XHooker 10-03-2015 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by Birddog (Post 1984277)
On another note as UALinIAH pointed out above we have entered a new low at C-171 with the current election. Check out the shenanigans at ualpilotsforum or the CALForum. Hopefully, this too shall pass after the election.

Considering 171's past, I wouldn't call it a new low, just a different kind of low.

AllenAllert 10-03-2015 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by intrepidcv11 (Post 1984377)
Actually the prior poster is well aware there is an election Staller. Btw your last sentence above is at best gibberish.


Thank You!

ps
Ben had hoped to rubber stamp the TS application but enough 171 pilots spoke up and demanded membership ratification. We'll see how it goes.

Birddog 10-03-2015 11:08 AM

Once again, if you browse the governing documents of YOUR union you will find it only takes one council member objection to force a local council vote on an application. The objection doesn't even have to be made at a council meeting it could be via email for instance. For the LEC to pass the application on their own there would have to be a majority vote so BS could not single-handedly pull it off even if he wanted to.

Dogg

AllenAllert 10-03-2015 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Birddog (Post 1984694)
Once again, if you browse the governing documents of YOUR union you will find it only takes one council member objection to force a local council vote on an application. The objection doesn't even have to be made at a council meeting it could be via email for instance. For the LEC to pass the application on their own there would have to be a majority vote so BS could not single-handedly pull it off even if he wanted to.

Dogg

I know you're trying to defend BS and that's ok. Simple fact is there will be a local vote. What's surprising is there was an objection to force the vote. I stand by my statement and let's see if BS has another bathroom meeting for the vote.

baseball 10-03-2015 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by Birddog (Post 1984246)
If you would browse the ALPA CB&L and the UAL MEC Policy Manual once in a while you would understand this is no C-171 conspiracy. The application is being considered per policy.

Dogg

I believe his application could be considered, and then rejected by the local council leadership without it even being considered by the body at a meeting. I don't believe that the application actually requires consideration if the individual is a scab, is in bad standing, has debts/assessments, or unpaid dues, or if he/she has been otherwise disqualified (ie article 8).

I do think ALPA needs to do something about this.....why can't the scabs just go away? I'd like to see ALPA do something so that we don't have to continually get side-tracked and distracted by this foolishness.


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