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Thanks so much for answering my question
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 1989759)
Thanks so much for answering my question
Sorry, I have no stats for you. However, I can say in general that there is a great deal of angst over here and a much higher level of grievances than could be considered "typical". Compared to DAL, I'm sure we stick out like a sore thumb. Feel better now? |
Originally Posted by Thor
(Post 1989749)
Reading this board is probably NOT the best place to get a frame of reference for the industry. If you want some background reading as to why the union does the things it does, spend a few days with these books on your e-reader.
Flying the Line vol 1 Flying the Line vol 2 and for United specifically: From Wooden Wings |
No, aero is at frontier. It was mentioned in another thread they have 900ish grievances and United has 9.
I have no factual numbers but I'd have to say that our (United) numbers are much higher, especially considering just the total pilots numbers comparison. Aero I don't have the answer you are looking for but I can promise you it isn't a 100:1 ratio, especially given we have over 10x the number of pilots, and ones that have been through scab era, double furlough, bankruptcy, mergers etc. I know F9 has been through some stuff but it's not like you are leading the pack in past problems. ALPA is a stronger union with more resources which enables them to handle grievances faster and with more pilots they can set past precedence easier with the company. |
Frontier is not ALPA. We have an in house union, although there is a discussion going on about joining ALPA.
The number of grievances we have is about 200, not 900. A lot of ours were pay issues, and some were ugly. We have a new payroll person and the issues have gone way down, but of course a ton are still pending. |
I read "From Wooden Wings" last night and didn't fully grasp the B-Scale pay that was referred to many times including 4 times in the short conclusion.
"The degrading B- scale must end." "However the hated B-scale, although only a fraction of the scope Ferris and the board envisioned, still plagues this company." "As Warren Villareal, UAL-MEC No B –Scale Committee Chairman recently said, 'The B-scale salary structure was not just an assault on the new hire pilots, it was an assault on the A-scale pilots.'" Can someone point me to some reading where I can learn more about what that is; Why it's bad; Is it still here? |
Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 1989421)
I am a pilot with a different carrier. We have a significant stack of grievances pending with the company, and I am curious what the story is at United. Does anyone know roughly how many grievances United pilots file per year, or any thing I can use as a yard stick to compare to my airline.
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Originally Posted by gettinbumped
(Post 1989950)
We had 36 in the 3rd quarter. Whether that's typical or not I have no idea, but you're probably looking at about 145 a year.
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