Originally Posted by Aero1900

I am a pilot with a different carrier. We have a significant stack of grievances pending with the company, and I am curious what the story is at United. Does anyone know roughly how many grievances United pilots file per year, or any thing I can use as a yard stick to compare to my airline.

Thanks

Originally Posted by OldHrntDrvr

Frontier eh? Sorry man.

Originally Posted by CousinEddie

Yeah Hornet. He is one of those Beech 1900D pilots at Frontier. You locked on to that like a smart bomb.

Originally Posted by Aero1900

There is not a new hire class running this month. Classes running non stop starting again in November, however, I believe that the Nov and Dec classes have already been filled. Anyone interviewing this month will likely be looking at a Jan class.

Should be about 160-180 new hires in 2016.

Originally Posted by OpenClimb

Please heed what F9Driver is saying.

He is being more polite than I can manage. Employee relations are pretty much in the toilet. The only reason this place isn't in full meltdown mode is that we have a high percentage of new hire folks who are still in the honeymoon stages of butterflies and rainbows.

We have become the place where people come in spite of the poor working environment because there's a chance of a quick upgrade. The only reason anybody stays long term is that they can't move on for one reason or another. Some just consider themselves too old to start over and some have skeletons that make them less likely to be picked up by a more desirable carrier.

Working alongside (or being) someone who's trapped in the job only enhances the negative experience of being here.

I spoke with one of our union guys recently who told me we have somewhere in the neighborhood of 300 grievances pending. That's right around 1 grievance for every 3 pilots. The union rep mentioned one of the big legacy carriers and said they have something like 9 grievances pending. 9 grievances for 10,000-ish pilots versus 300 for 950. That's a pretty telling ratio. Fly it and grieve it is a daily chant from the Company and our Chief Pilot's office.

Really folks... Don't make the same mistake I've made and wake up one day to realize it's too late to do anything about it. Have more sense than I did and wait for something better. Really.

Originally Posted by CousinEddie

So why give him the "sorry man" treatment? As if you know a thing about the path of a civilian pilot. By the way, I was more than happy to provide tax dollars for your training as an F-18 driver. In fact, I wish more of them went that direction.

Originally Posted by CousinEddie

You knew nothing about scabs yesterday and now you know all about grievances? I guess you are doing some reading.