No furlough clause in TA
 

Can someone inform me as to what the no furlough clause for anyone on property at d.o.s. of the TA is? My council 5 rep mentioned it in his email and this is the first I'm hearing about it.

Thanks!

My guess is he meant to say the LOA expands the furlough protections to everyone hired since the C2012 took affect. Below is cut from the summary they sent yesterday.


Extend UPA provisions in 1-C-1-h and 1-I to include pilots hired since UPA DOS

 All 76 seaters converted to 70 seats if any pilot hired prior to TA DOS is furloughed (1-C-1-h)
o Physically remove seats
o Continue to be counted as though it is being operated as 76-Seat Aircraft

 Capture pilots hired prior to TA DOS in “General Furlough Protection” notice and limit rules

It sounds great on paper, and prevents the company unilaterally doing something stupid, but just remember two words that apply when the spam hits the fan before you hang your hat on it:

force majeure.

What Cadet said. Not worth the paper it's written on.

Agreed. Don't give it any credence. No furlough clauses have been worthless in the past.

My understanding for this extension was to change certain parts of our current UPA and anything that was untouched was to remain current book.

That is exactly correct.

This is it. It brings all pilots on seniority list at date of signing into our current no furlough clause.

Except that 1-C-1-h is not subject to force majeure

Yup----in good times it's not an issue.

And everybody should read 1-C-1-h. It's not a no-furlough clause, it's what happens when UA does furlough.

Oh, and section 1-I (General Furlough Protection) is absolutely subject to force majeure (ref 1-I-4).