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UAL T38 Phlyer 12-23-2015 08:02 AM

Hey! What about NSNBs?
 
I still haven't had time to see the video or read the TA in detail; just the summaries I've seen here.

I thought there were three big things anticipated: pay raise, QOL, and a NSNB. QOL (Reserves) fell by the wayside, unless you count increased pay as a QOL issue (some do).

There's a rate for the CS100.....but is there any jet order contingent upon this TA?

cadetdrivr 12-23-2015 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer (Post 2033182)
There's a rate for the CS100.....but is there any jet order contingent upon this TA?

Nope. (Watch the video, it's only 4 mins long.)

They decided to de-couple a jet order since it was essentially a joke considering that the company could, and still can, order a new small jet at any time with or without this potential LOA.

All In 12-23-2015 08:07 AM

No there isnt.. doest mean there wont be an order. - ALPA just didn't want to have it tied to the vote -SJS carrot etc..
video is 4 mins long and explained it pretty well -when you have the time.

Beeforchicken 12-23-2015 08:12 AM

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...nalyst-419946/

Sniper66 12-23-2015 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by Beeforchicken (Post 2033195)




As soon as the TA gets approved by the membership 1/21/16


My guess is 50 and 50 options for CS100 very cheap due to very cheap TA rates of course and because the Canadians need a deal bad to get it going also 3 year upgrades will make it very cheap labor cost as well.

and 50 737-700 max (new design 700s) with a toss by Boeing for 6 more 777-300 cheap as well for new ULR to get the deal done (Boeing needs to keep production line open till 2018 on the 777)

Grumble 12-23-2015 10:04 AM

Pilots don't buy airplanes. Either United has a business case for them or they don't.

I applaud Heppner for striking all NSNB language from this TA.

Scrappy 12-23-2015 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 2033288)
Pilots don't buy airplanes. Either United has a business case for them or they don't.

I applaud Heppner for striking all NSNB language from this TA.

Same - smart move. Allow the company to run a profitable, correct operation and route structure. Allow us to fly the planes once they order them at a professional pay rate. The company being hamstrung by a TA to buy airplanes at perhaps the wrong time with the wrong amount does not equate to financial success.

UAL T38 Phlyer 12-23-2015 06:03 PM

Just watched the videos; agree....smart move.

Davedave 12-23-2015 06:08 PM

Very smart move. That way this TA will get voted upon on based on its own merits.


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