United and Degrees
#21
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Dare you comment on this board without some bloody pilot having some Type A personality interjection. Counting down the days to being rid of pilots and their tireless egos.
#22
Exactly right, and here is some tough love. It doesn't matter how many times the question is asked. The answer remains the same. WITHOUT a four year DEGREE your chances of being hired at a major airline are slim to none. PERIOD. It doesn't matter how you feel about it, doesn't matter if that offends you. This is the way it is. If you got into aviation wanting to fly for the airlines your should have known that and it should have part of your plan to get there. Just like the other 99.9% of people who are flying for a major airline.
#23
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Is it just me or do the majority of complaints about the degree requirement seem to come from those that don't have them. While we are at it why don't we just complain about the FAA making you go through a joke of what is commercial pilot training to get paid to fly.
It would seem to me that it's their company and they can require anything they like in order for you to join it as long as it's a legal requirement. I have met many that just simply choose not to go get credit assigned for their ratings and experience and then start on a relatively simple process to get their 4 year degree on line. Several schools will assign credit for ratings. But these same individuals will throw money into plenty of other past times then complain that it shouldn't be a requirement.
What next? Go to a medical school and tell them that you don't need an undergrad degree to apply for admission? Utterly confused?
It would seem to me that it's their company and they can require anything they like in order for you to join it as long as it's a legal requirement. I have met many that just simply choose not to go get credit assigned for their ratings and experience and then start on a relatively simple process to get their 4 year degree on line. Several schools will assign credit for ratings. But these same individuals will throw money into plenty of other past times then complain that it shouldn't be a requirement.
What next? Go to a medical school and tell them that you don't need an undergrad degree to apply for admission? Utterly confused?
#25
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Degree or not. Apply, list your credentials and see what happens.
The airlines do hire qualified pilots without degrees, but you are most likely more competitive with a 4 year degree.
Yes, they hired me and I did and still do not have a 4 year degree.
The airlines do hire qualified pilots without degrees, but you are most likely more competitive with a 4 year degree.
Yes, they hired me and I did and still do not have a 4 year degree.
#26
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Again, why such a debate on a clear cut topic?
#28
The four-year degree has been pretty basic requirement since the Sixties--my dad insisted on the the degree if i were to gave a chance at a "legacy", what were majors in 1974. Still true, get over it.
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#29
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From: Sitting down
Bill Kennedy stated at the WAI hiring brief, "We don't require the 4 year degree, but don't expect us to call you without one."
So for United...you need it.
Why anyone would want to try to skimp on this requirement is beyond me. This has been beat on the head many times before.
No, it doesn't make you a better pilot. The best pilot I ever flew with didn't even have a GED.
Yes, it helps the computer/HR folks weed through the gazillions of apps that look exactly alike (regional guys/gals with high time, long time regional guys/gals with lots of PIC turbine, military guys/gals with Masters degrees and beyond)
If you don't have the Bachelor's Degree, your chances at a legacy are pretty much zip.
Just as we are wasting time on this forum exchanging ideas, you could be punching away at the keyboard working toward that degree as you read.
Best of luck to you all.
So for United...you need it.
Why anyone would want to try to skimp on this requirement is beyond me. This has been beat on the head many times before.
No, it doesn't make you a better pilot. The best pilot I ever flew with didn't even have a GED.
Yes, it helps the computer/HR folks weed through the gazillions of apps that look exactly alike (regional guys/gals with high time, long time regional guys/gals with lots of PIC turbine, military guys/gals with Masters degrees and beyond)
If you don't have the Bachelor's Degree, your chances at a legacy are pretty much zip.
Just as we are wasting time on this forum exchanging ideas, you could be punching away at the keyboard working toward that degree as you read.
Best of luck to you all.
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