Schnaubelt FAA letter
04-08-2016 | 05:05 AM
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Schnaubelt FAA letter
"117.5 does not quantify the amount of fatigue"
"the FAA declines to categorically find that a slight amount of fatigue"
"whether to conduct an emergency landing will depend on the flightcrew member's fatigue level"
"nearest suitable location to avoid accumulating additional amounts of fatigue"
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...rpretation.pdf
"the FAA declines to categorically find that a slight amount of fatigue"
"whether to conduct an emergency landing will depend on the flightcrew member's fatigue level"
"nearest suitable location to avoid accumulating additional amounts of fatigue"
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...rpretation.pdf
04-08-2016 | 05:19 AM
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Hack the clock.
It's only a matter of time until a flight is diverted en route due to inadequate crew "rest" facilities (noise, temp, bedding, or whatever).
It almost certinally should have already happened, IMHO, but now the FAA has issued a get-out-of-jail-free interpretation.
It's only a matter of time until a flight is diverted en route due to inadequate crew "rest" facilities (noise, temp, bedding, or whatever).
It almost certinally should have already happened, IMHO, but now the FAA has issued a get-out-of-jail-free interpretation.
04-08-2016 | 06:03 AM
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"117.5 does not quantify the amount of fatigue"
"the FAA declines to categorically find that a slight amount of fatigue"
"whether to conduct an emergency landing will depend on the flightcrew member's fatigue level"
"nearest suitable location to avoid accumulating additional amounts of fatigue"
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...rpretation.pdf
"the FAA declines to categorically find that a slight amount of fatigue"
"whether to conduct an emergency landing will depend on the flightcrew member's fatigue level"
"nearest suitable location to avoid accumulating additional amounts of fatigue"
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...rpretation.pdf
Since "highest" is an absolute term, and to fall below that is illegal, then any fatigue at all--low "level" or small "amount"--would drop the pilot down to less than "highest." Using an absolute term for the standard of safety but a relative term for fatigue seems contradictory.
04-08-2016 | 07:56 AM
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From the pilot's perspective, there is a significant difference between the legacies F/A "procedures" as they apply to a pilot getting rest in the 777 bunk. And it's not a good difference. I know that Garry made some progress, but I haven't flown enough split trips yet to see if it's taking hold. And I haven't seen anything in print from Howard. But, I did go to LEAP training and did have several uSource submittals denied.
Perhaps they saw my AFA pin??
Maybe I'll skip my next break and go play the Saxophone next to their bunks instead.
Perhaps they saw my AFA pin??
Maybe I'll skip my next break and go play the Saxophone next to their bunks instead.
04-08-2016 | 04:42 PM
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From the pilot's perspective, there is a significant difference between the legacies F/A "procedures" as they apply to a pilot getting rest in the 777 bunk. And it's not a good difference. I know that Garry made some progress, but I haven't flown enough split trips yet to see if it's taking hold. And I haven't seen anything in print from Howard. But, I did go to LEAP training and did have several uSource submittals denied.
Perhaps they saw my AFA pin?? Maybe I'll skip my next break and go play the Saxophone next to their bunks instead.
Perhaps they saw my AFA pin??
Maybe I'll skip my next break and go play the Saxophone next to their bunks instead.
04-08-2016 | 05:35 PM
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Hack the clock.
It's only a matter of time until a flight is diverted en route due to inadequate crew "rest" facilities (noise, temp, bedding, or whatever).
It almost certinally should have already happened, IMHO, but now the FAA has issued a get-out-of-jail-free interpretation.
It's only a matter of time until a flight is diverted en route due to inadequate crew "rest" facilities (noise, temp, bedding, or whatever).
It almost certinally should have already happened, IMHO, but now the FAA has issued a get-out-of-jail-free interpretation.
Tired Delta Crew Diverts Flight, Blames Cramped New Berths - WSJ
04-08-2016 | 07:42 PM
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