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Old 04-29-2016 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ReadyRsv
At what point is this excessive?

Say I'm 35 right now. UAL is going to put enough away (assuming 16% and no changes to pay, tax rules, etc) enough for well over 5 million bucks.

I figure I will invest elsewhere with money I can use before retiring (real estate, college savings for kids, etc) while making the minimum contributions to the UAL fund required to max out tax advantages... But 10 million in the 401k just seems like putting too much where I won't be able to use it.
59.5 comes pretty fast. I completely agree with diversifying but if you can't afford to max out your tax advantaged accounts then you shouldn't be investing heavily anywhere else. You should be making enough to max everything out and have some side investments. Most guys who say they want to invest elsewhere don't do the math on the tax advantage of 401k's and IRA's.
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Old 04-29-2016 | 06:17 PM
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I know a retired major airline pilot that has out of pocket medical related expenses of $7000 per month despite being heavily insured.
Nobody will lend money for health care or retirement like they will for school.
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Old 04-29-2016 | 06:26 PM
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Thanks guys, great advice all around.

I plan on fully investing in the company retirement plan. I am doing 5% extra right now on first year pay, then plugging some more in next year. That will put me at about 26% of my w2 in retirement savings, which when I plug it in as a rough estimate shows me at around 7 million bucks. Next year alone should net 39k in retirement contributions, equaling 9 years of fully vested company matching and contributions from my regional days.

I just think that if I have a second gig I wont be putting 53 k MORE! into retirement vehicles, rather reinvesting into other areas like real estate, etc.

There should be a pilot investment club, all the FO's buy the Captains beer while they tell them all the things NOT to do! (and what worked)
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Old 04-29-2016 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BeechPilot33
Looks real nice. Owe you guys a beer. Just to be clear you can create a brokerage window and use your B fund money to purchase stocks just like a regular brokerage account?
It's called a PCRA at Schwab. I have brokerage accounts on both the 401k and PRAP.
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Old 04-30-2016 | 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BeechPilot33
Looks real nice. Owe you guys a beer. Just to be clear you can create a brokerage window and use your B fund money to purchase stocks just like a regular brokerage account?
You can even have a third party manage the PCRA investments.
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Old 04-30-2016 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by APC225
You can even have a third party manage the PCRA investments.
Morningstar is who I use.
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Old 04-30-2016 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
Morningstar is who I use.
How have they been? I just started with Retirement Advisors of America.
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Old 04-30-2016 | 05:47 AM
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Wiser Wealth. Former Airline pilot and ALPA R&I guy. Highly recommend talking with him.
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Old 04-30-2016 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ReadyRsv
which when I plug it in as a rough estimate shows me at around 7 million bucks.
Out of curiosity, what calculator are you using?
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Old 04-30-2016 | 08:05 AM
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I think your being overly optimistic on your average return over the next 30 years. Not saying its impossible, but not a high probability. I would use 5-6 percent in your calculators. Don't forget also in 30 years at 3% annual inflation your money will be worth roughly 2.5 times less than it is today. I'm maxing my personal contribution out and am 70% likely will be around 6 mil at the end of my 33.5 year career. Thats only 2.4 mil in todays dollars. Better to be overly prepared than under prepared. Especially when we don't have the ability to work longer if we need to.
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