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Scott Stoops 07-05-2016 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by El Guapo (Post 2156303)
So if I bid 73 and ask scheduling for Mia sims, how long do u go to IAH, and then how long MIA?

Two weeks in iah, then any combination of any sim available after that. I was in Mia for full flight (b's), but in iah for fbs (a's). It could literally be any combination of days...

Also agree that you won't get a choice. They were very inflexible re:changes they didn't create. Other than the PI's (who were very good), the rest was very weak. The biggest improvement would be instructor continuity in that regard. The AI's need a complete rework and housecleaning IMHO. To be honest, a rewrite of the entire syllabus would be in order if I had my way. Waaayyyy too much focus on the skv and virtually no support to get there.

El Guapo 07-05-2016 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by Scott Stoops (Post 2156430)
Two weeks in iah, then any combination of any sim available after that. I was in Mia for full flight (b's), but in iah for fbs (a's). It could literally be any combination of days...

Also agree that you won't get a choice. They were very inflexible re:changes they didn't create. Other than the PI's (who were very good), the rest was very weak. The biggest improvement would be instructor continuity in that regard. The AI's need a complete rework and housecleaning IMHO. To be honest, a rewrite of the entire syllabus would be in order if I had my way. Waaayyyy too much focus on the skv and virtually no support to get there.

Thanks Scott

pilotgolfer 07-05-2016 05:16 PM

It's the best course that you can teach to yourself.

Longball 07-05-2016 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 2156477)
It's the best course that you can teach to yourself.

Can you elaborate on your experience as well? Thanks. All good info.

130drvr 07-05-2016 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 2156120)
Different instructors everyday. Zero consistency between any of the instructors, especially the ground guys. Retired pilots that don't know the systems and don't care. Most of them seem to just be there to collect a pay check and just teach to the test. KB has zero oversight and not a clue whats going on.

To be fair the PIs in the Full Flight Sims were pretty good but had a new instructor everyday. However, by the time you get to those guys you are supposed to know the FM and systems, but since they only teach the test and can't answer any questions harder than the surface you will be behind.

I spent more time self studying at night, every night, than I did in the training center.

This.......exactly spot on! Did IAH 737 in 2013 and Bus TK last December, like two completely different worlds. A gentleman's course vs a dumpster fire

SilverLake 07-06-2016 04:07 AM


Originally Posted by Scott Stoops (Post 2155872)
You will be in iah. You wont get systems "training" though. F/O I flew with recently was transitionjng to the 756 and said the best part of coming off the 73 was not having to unlearn anything. Didn't learn it in the first place.

Lol, ain't that the truth!

Knotcher 07-06-2016 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by Longball (Post 2156615)
Can you elaborate on your experience as well? Thanks. All good info.

The "teach yourself" a misnomer. You are taught systems by a CBT instead of a person. Its not like they throw you the FM and say learn it.

Personally I like it better than sitting in a classroom all day, you do the modules when you want. If you are the self reliant type you will like it, if you are old school type that needs spoon feeding and diaper changing you probably won't.

SpecialTracking 07-06-2016 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by Knotcher (Post 2156816)
The "teach yourself" a misnomer. You are taught systems by a CBT instead of a person. Its not like they throw you the FM and say learn it.

Personally I like it better than sitting in a classroom all day, you do the modules when you want. If you are the self reliant type you will like it, if you are old school type that needs spoon feeding and diaper changing you probably won't.

Then why not stay home for systems as a distance learning course, take the eskv, pass, and show up for fixed based sims with flows memorized?

A classroom setting leads to discussion and knowledge. But it also costs $$$.

APC225 07-06-2016 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by Knotcher (Post 2156816)
The "teach yourself" a misnomer. You are taught systems by a CBT instead of a person. Its not like they throw you the FM and say learn it.

Personally I like it better than sitting in a classroom all day, you do the modules when you want. If you are the self reliant type you will like it, if you are old school type that needs spoon feeding and diaper changing you probably won't.

And there is an exam covering all the major systems. If I remember there were 10 sections and you have to pass each one. But it is pretty much entirely self study.

Knotcher 07-06-2016 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 2156821)
Then why not have stay home for systems as a distance learning course, take the eskv, pass, and show up for fixed based sims with flows memorized?

A classroom setting leads to discussion and knowledge. But it also costs $$$.

When I went through we did have system review days with an instructor to ask questions and discuss. However I prefer interactive and being able to freeplay with the systems in the modules, I learn more.


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