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GyroNole 07-30-2016 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by robthree (Post 2170590)
I remember a couple decades ago, in a previous life, a CEO was having a town hall meeting at a hub. The question came up "Why do we fly into XXX? Its an old, raggedy airfield, with an old raggedy terminal, everything that goes there gets messed up!" The answer of course was "That's where the money is. Our flights to XXX are the most profitable in the whole airline. So despite all those faults you listed, which are all very real, it still makes us more money than doing something else with those planes and people."

So, does closing IAD or LAX (or IAH or EWR or DEN) make any sense? Only if there is more money to be made by moving those resources somewhere else. And if it does make sense, I won't cry about it.
But then again, I don't live in base.

Robthree, PM Sent

LeeFXDWG 07-31-2016 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by robthree (Post 2170590)
I remember a couple decades ago, in a previous life, a CEO was having a town hall meeting at a hub. The question came up "Why do we fly into XXX? Its an old, raggedy airfield, with an old raggedy terminal, everything that goes there gets messed up!" The answer of course was "That's where the money is. Our flights to XXX are the most profitable in the whole airline. So despite all those faults you listed, which are all very real, it still makes us more money than doing something else with those planes and people."

So, does closing IAD or LAX (or IAH or EWR or DEN) make any sense? Only if there is more money to be made by moving those resources somewhere else. And if it does make sense, I won't cry about it.
But then again, I don't live in base.

The IAD and LAX closure thing was actually something Jamie Baker floated out there at least a year ago. The reality is, airlines are measured more by PRASM and margin than total profit figures. Been that way for awhile.

If UAL has the numbers to support closing hubs and reallocate the assets where it makes a huge jump in PRASM and margin, they'll do it in a heartbeat.

Apparently those numbers aren't supporting that move at this point. In the future, who knows.

Lee

cadetdrivr 07-31-2016 09:41 AM

Anybody else recall the rumors that UAL was buying A380s or we were getting new uniforms???

Both were "done deals" and yet here we are several months later with neither.

ugleeual 07-31-2016 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by cadetdrivr (Post 2171373)
Anybody else recall the rumors that UAL was buying A380s or we were getting new uniforms???

Both were "done deals" and yet here we are several months later with neither.

we are getting neither one... i hear that maybe another meal choice in the works. :)

Jaded N Cynical 07-31-2016 11:35 AM

Well if it's on the internet, it has to be true.

SpecialTracking 07-31-2016 12:34 PM

While the airline landscape has changed, I remember a comment from Jack Creighton that Dulles was essentially a diamond in the rough with great potential.

rp2pilot 07-31-2016 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by cadetdrivr (Post 2171373)
Anybody else recall the rumors that UAL was buying A380s or we were getting new uniforms???

Both were "done deals" and yet here we are several months later with neither.

I'm still waiting for my Taser .. I went to the 5 hour class :).

Slats Extend 07-31-2016 08:28 PM

New Uniforms: True. Timeable? HA

In my mind, we should transfer flying from the soon to be slot unregulated EWR to IAD which is relatively uncongested and delay free when compared to EWR.


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