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Originally Posted by Probe
(Post 2179411)
LOL.
12,000 pilots. 100,000 employees. 700 aircraft and growing. Five years after the merger, we have recreated lUAL in 2001, without the help of Rono or Rakeesh. 2018 850 aircraft 15500 pilots |
Originally Posted by untied
(Post 2179111)
Wow. 53%. The company always shoots for 51%….and they got darn close!
Gave them the absolute minimum they needed to get it passed. Glad to see that we can move forward... Where have I seen that before . . . I'm ecstatic they finally got a contract, but I must admit I'm nervous about the crew interactions. |
Yeah 53% like it, but 47% are not going to be immediately happy that it passed.
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
(Post 2179429)
2018
850 aircraft 15500 pilots Or, 550 aircraft, 9000 pilots. |
Originally Posted by Sniper66
(Post 2179429)
2018
850 aircraft 15500 pilots They better start doing some serious hiring! At the moment they are cleaning out the pool with no additional new hires due to "softening" revenues. |
Originally Posted by Sniper66
(Post 2179429)
2018
850 aircraft 15500 pilots From a couple months back:
Originally Posted by Boeing aviator
I posted this on a thread about hiring in the United section and thought I'd repost here.
I've asked a few of the FO's I've flown with who were upgrading soon after we flew to let me know what they heard during Captain Indoc which is conducted at headquarters in Chicago. They get briefings from senior management and even Oscar Munoz our CEO usually visits. Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just reporting back what I've heard. I know it's very optimistic and yes things can change in a NY second. That being said here is what I've heard recently. Current mainline fleet is 723, by end of next year 816 and up to 1000 in five years. Planning on a 18,000 pilot seniority list in five years, current list just over 12,500. Taking delivery of all 35 firm and 15 options of the A350's. 14 777-300's 4 to SFO rest to EWR. 40% of pilot group will be new hires in five years. Most senior managers say they have never worked for a CEO like Oscar, very optimistic. |
Can just anyone start the Kum-ba-ya chorus, or is it an appointed position?
I hope all that comes true, but I am not betting on it. Actually, it feels like we "peaked" about a year ago, at least it feels that way to me. |
Originally Posted by Probe
(Post 2179968)
Can just anyone start the Kum-ba-ya chorus, or is it an appointed position?
I hope all that comes true, but I am not betting on it. Actually, it feels like we "peaked" about a year ago, at least it feels that way to me. |
Consolidation will smooth out the next calamity a bit and retirements will return furloughs faster but history is history in this business.
Smile in the sun a bit, forget your a pilot and work in the glorified day care that is aviation for awhile. Save a few schekls here and there because this business usually tanks not long after it gets good. Maybe this cycle is different. Love to be proved wrong. |
Originally Posted by Probe
(Post 2179968)
Can just anyone start the Kum-ba-ya chorus, or is it an appointed position?
United Airlines on Brink of Labor Peace Six Years After Merger Michael Sasso August 12, 2016 Flight attendants ratify pact, mechanics near tentative deal CEO seeks ‘new chapter’ in carrier’s relations with employees United Continental Holdings Inc. won approval for a new contract with flight attendants and reached an “agreement in principle” with mechanics, setting the stage for labor peace for the first time since the 2010 merger that created the airline. The Association of Flight Attendants voted 53 percent in favor of a five-year pact that raises top pay rates as much as 31 percent, according to a joint statement with the carrier Friday. United also reached a proposed deal with the International Brotherhood of Teamsters covering 9,000 technicians and related employees, which will be voted on once the language is finished. The results bolster Chief Executive Officer Oscar Munoz’s strategy of winning over a disgruntled workforce, even if it means accepting higher costs. United reached new agreements or extensions of existing ones with pilots, ground workers and dispatchers during the past year. “Upon ratification, this will be the first time in almost a decade that all United work groups will have labor contracts in place,” Munoz said in a joint statement with the Teamsters. “When I took this job last year, I promised to turn the page and write a new chapter in our approach to labor and management relations at United,” he said in the statement with flight attendants. Flexible Scheduling Maximum pay for flight attendants with at least 13 years of experience will be set at $62 an hour, according to the contract ratified by the 25,000-member union. United had failed to reach a joint flight-attendant contract since its October 2010 merger with Continental Airlines. The new deal will allow the carrier to put attendants from United and Continental on the same planes for the first time. A combined group of flight attendants should give United more flexibility in scheduling, especially when a cabin crew runs up against federally mandated allowable work hours and must be replaced. Until now, for example, a Continental crew could only be replaced by another from the same predecessor airline. Attendants were further split by jet type. For example, Continental employees worked on Boeing Co. 737 jets, while United crews staffed jumbo 747s. Both camps got a piece of the 787 Dreamliner, with former Continental crews working on the first 25 to join the company’s fleet and United the next 25. Cost Increase Mechanics overwhelmingly rejected an earlier deal that would have given them a 25 percent raise, an average bonus check of $9,000 and other benefits, with 93 percent of voters opposing the company’s contract offer. While many analysts see the labor pacts generally as positive, the deals will boost costs significantly. JPMorgan Chase analyst Jamie Baker in June estimated that the new agreements would increase United’s costs by about $900 million annually. Those expenses could hinder Munoz’s plan to find $3.1 billion in extra revenue or savings by 2018, analysts have said. Leaders of the flight attendants union overcame significant opposition over the past six weeks to get members to support the deal. Some from the Continental camp complained that the contract was more generous to United attendants because Continental workers have had a slightly higher wage scale in recent years. Other attendants wanted a signing bonus. The union countered that the airline would have offset any such provision with lower wages. |
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