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UALfoLIFE 09-30-2016 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by Monkeyfly (Post 2214298)
I don't think that this is how it works.

My math shows a 5.47% additional increase to our published rates by 2018.

The UAL MEC snap up calculator shows 4.47 immediate then 3-3-4.

davessn763 09-30-2016 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta (Post 2214306)
If it makes any difference in your math, here it is explained better.

18% retro to Jan 1, 2016
3% Jan 1, 2017
3% Jan 1, 2018
4% Jan 1, 2019

Retro? I thought I was told it couldn't be done.

WhiskeyDelta 09-30-2016 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by davessn763 (Post 2214368)
Retro? I thought I was told it couldn't be done.

Initially it was said it would be negotiated after a signed deal. Question is if anything was given up by ALPA to secure it.

jsled 10-01-2016 07:55 AM

I ain't gonna run out and buy that Vette just yet, BUT.... this 'snap up' (if it works as advertised and DAL ALPA ratifies) will take the 737 to $282 and the 77/78/764 to $350. Thanks to the Extension, we're looking at about 25% raises over 3 years. OUTSTANDING. Is it no wonder it passed by such a large margin?

404yxl 10-01-2016 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta (Post 2214392)
Initially it was said it would be negotiated after a signed deal. Question is if anything was given up by ALPA to secure it.

The company saves millions/day by not giving us a new contract the day of the amendable date forward. They can afford full retro into perpetuity unless you sign a contract saying you don't want it.

Delta was already over $400 million is savings so far in 2016 and that doesn't include interest it can make on that money.

DashTrash 10-01-2016 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by UALfoLIFE (Post 2214367)
The UAL MEC snap up calculator shows 4.47 immediate then 3-3-4.

Where is the snap up calculator located?

SpecialTracking 10-01-2016 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 2214691)
I ain't gonna run out and buy that Vette just yet, BUT.... this 'snap up' (if it works as advertised and DAL ALPA ratifies) will take the 737 to $282 and the 77/78/764 to $350. Thanks to the Extension, we're looking at about 25% raises over 3 years. OUTSTANDING. Is it no wonder it passed by such a large margin?

The benefit of hindsight makes one infinitely wiser.

Probe 10-01-2016 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by 404yxl (Post 2214698)
The company saves millions/day by not giving us a new contract the day of the amendable date forward. They can afford full retro into perpetuity unless you sign a contract saying you don't want it.

Delta was already over $400 million is savings so far in 2016 and that doesn't include interest it can make on that money.

I forget, what is "interest". It used to be something. Now it is zero.

jsled 10-01-2016 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 2214723)
The benefit of hindsight makes one infinitely wiser.

16% guaranteed and 2 years to let Delta plus it up? That's called betting on the come. You can call it hindsight now if you want. But we all knew it was more likely than not. Sift though the old posts if you don't believe me. Looks like Christmas is coming early this year. ;)

Probe 10-01-2016 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 2214740)
16% guaranteed and 2 years to let Delta plus it up? That's called betting on the come. You can call it hindsight now if you want. But we all knew it was more likely than not. Sift though the old posts if you don't believe me. Looks like Christmas is coming early this year. ;)

Yup. The extension is the greatest gift I have ever been given as an airline puke. Now, I get more.

But hey? We could have used our "leverage" in Section 6, and gotten something similar, in 4 years, with no retro.

Cha-ching


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