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Sunvox 10-09-2016 12:47 PM
Originally Posted by sleeves (Post 2220074)
We really need to get past the divisive crap.
+1,000,000,000

As to a tippy plane . . . Beech 99 had the same problem. Used to keep an engine running if they didn't have the tail support in place . . . crazy! Who designs these things :rolleyes:

UAL T38 Phlyer 10-09-2016 01:15 PM
Originally Posted by Sunvox (Post 2220082)
+1,000,000,000

As to a tippy plane . . . **** Who designs these things :rolleyes:
http://static6.depositphotos.com/108...y-engineer.jpg

HuggyU2 10-09-2016 02:21 PM
Originally Posted by Aquaticus (Post 2219848)
... stay until the last passenger is off.
If you're not short on time going to your next flight, that would seem like a good thing to do, from a customer service point of view. Passengers appreciate it.

buscappy 10-09-2016 02:24 PM
Originally Posted by sleeves (Post 2220074)
We really need to get past the divisive crap.
we really need to get past the guppy guys treating the customers to a 35 minute sauna. when i ride or dh, and it's hot, i always ask the capt to start the air. and the south guys have, almost invariably, given me the evil stare
just my experience
and. in 25 pre-merger years, i was hot during boarding maybe a dozen times
in these few post-merger yrs, I've been in a sauna several times a month.
yes. need to get past the divisive crap-
so let's all spend the gas and keep the cabins cool
don't play this 'two completely different airlines are exactly the same' game. doesn't seem so to me so far
but can get there...

SpecialTracking 10-09-2016 02:27 PM
Originally Posted by HuggyU2 (Post 2220127)
If you're not short on time going to your next flight, that would seem like a good thing to do, from a customer service point of view. Passengers appreciate it.
Flight attendants appreciate it as well. Just do the right thing. If it means showing up to the other plane a couple minutes later than you normally would, rule number 2 (comfort) says it's ok.

intrepidcv11 10-09-2016 02:29 PM
Originally Posted by Aquaticus (Post 2219848)
I have under a year on the line and I usually switch the bleeds during my parking flow but most captains will see ground power and the APU will get shut down in the same thought. It is almost muscle memory now for every captain I fly with. I might say something and the response is usually "they are usually pretty good about ground air here." I am afraid if we continue to leave people on hot airplanes with bad or no ground air they will start requiring us to stay until the last passenger is off.
In the past I always asked skipper if things were not usual today and your fam was back there, would you be all right with the resulting sauna? You are no hero captain.

buscappy 10-09-2016 02:31 PM
Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 2220132)
Exactly. Flight attendants appreciate it as well. Just do the right thing. If it means showing up to the other plane a couple minutes later than you normally would, rule number 2 (comfort) says it's ok.
Exactly ^2. And showing up at a jet several minutes before boarding and starting the apu and cool air can keep the cabin temp ahead of the curve
those tubes don't cool once they fill with warm bodies

this is not actually rocket science
basic hvac knowledge

PilotGR 10-09-2016 02:31 PM
I have had the same problem on the 73...turn the air on..if the ground cart is not cooling..pull the F'er...and start the APU..

SpecialTracking 10-09-2016 02:36 PM
Originally Posted by buscappy (Post 2220135)
Exactly ^2. And showing up at a jet several minutes before boarding and starting the apu and cool air can keep the cabin temp ahead of the curve
those tubes don't cool once they fill with warm bodies

this is not actually rocket science
basic hvac knowledge
I tell every fo I fly with if they get to the plane before me, make sure it's comfortable. If not, solve the problem.

WesternSkies 10-09-2016 02:48 PM
Originally Posted by Sunvox (Post 2220082)
+1,000,000,000

As to a tippy plane . . . Beech 99 had the same problem. :
Are you remembering the right aircraft?


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