Originally Posted by Sunvox (Post 2224333)

2012 had nothing to do with general issues and could have called for any number of concessions and I would have voted for it just to end the merger shenanigans and get everyone on the same team. For the record I think you will find the vast majority of L-UAL pilots felt the same way.

Originally Posted by Sunvox (Post 2224077)

There is one issue for which even if it was the single bad item I would gladly vote a TA down. I will consider most any "give" depending on the package, but I will never agree to give up future jobs especially not the highest paying jobs.

Originally Posted by Flytolive (Post 2224346)

Then, maybe you should follow the old adage to 'never say never' especially when referring to another pilot group's scope clause when you don't even understand your own.

Originally Posted by Sunvox (Post 2224333)

Chest puffing. . . nice . . . why must everything on this forum be personal and negative :rolleyes:

Anyways . . .

In my career the only contracts I've had were 1) 2000 which was an across the board win (or so it seemed) 2) 2 contracts in bankruptcy both of which I sent emails to the MEC saying we should test whether striking in bankruptcy was legal (which American later proved was a viable concern) and then 3) 2012

2012 had nothing to do with general issues and could have called for any number of concessions and I would have voted for it just to end the merger shenanigans and get everyone on the same team. For the record I think you will find the vast majority of L-UAL pilots felt the same way.

The Delta TA is being proffered at a time when concessions are simply not necessary. I understand and have read the Delta union explanation that the percentages involved reflect Air France's use of the A380, but I don't think the union should be tasked with solving the stupidity of an Air France management decision. That's like letting the Chinese dump cheap steel because their factories over produced. Too bad for them. Not our problem. Giving them a pass sets a bad precedent.

Originally Posted by snowdawg (Post 2224405)

Ditto

UAL use to have almost 50 747's, now 22.

Originally Posted by C11DCA (Post 2224722)

Now only if the Guppy would die as well then life would be good.

Originally Posted by SpecialTracking (Post 2224784)

Is that you Mr. Kirby?

Originally Posted by Probe (Post 2225191)

No, it is those of us condemned souls, with contorted backs and noise canceling headsets, who fly it.