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awax 11-19-2016 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by webecheck (Post 2246280)
So is everyone in agreement that if the operation is to grow domestically, which was mentioned as a focus area going forward in the IR presentation, the first step in that is probably to open up new markets? And since it's financially more responsible to open up a new market with a 76 seater that passengers actually enjoy (e175), and not a 130 seater...and we can't acquire anymore without a SNB purchase...and the 737-700s order didnt nothing to allow that.....but a SNB could....and mgmt said they want to take on Delta more....who flies 717s...and has seen a solid growth in their domestic market the last several years....and Kirby's rep is he loves RJs and is smart on how to grow revenue....

All signs seem to indicate more news is on the horizon fleet wise.

All I'm in agreement with, is that you write like a sixth grade girl with ADHD. Good God man! :p.

But to your point, CPAs are in decline and mainline will recapture some domestic lift. Spending billions on a new fleet only to allow less than 100 additional 76 seaters to attempt minuscule improvements to yield doesn't pass the sniff test.

In other words, complying with scope choke provisions won't guarantee ROI. With all the attention on CAPEX, I don't think SNB idea would get passed the board.

Grumble 11-19-2016 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by awax (Post 2246467)
All I'm in agreement with, is that you write like a sixth grade girl with ADHD. Good God man! :p.

But to your point, CPAs are in decline and mainline will recapture some domestic lift. Spending billions on a new fleet only to allow less than 100 additional 76 seaters to attempt minuscule improvements to yield doesn't pass the sniff test.

Agree, if there's a financial case to be made for more 76 seaters it's cheaper to bring them to mainline instead of spooling up a whole new fleet.

John Carr 11-19-2016 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 2246331)
When are the 50 seaters going away?

"the 50 seater is dead!!!!!"

Sadly, that isn't happening anywhere near the timeline many thought it would.

Management simply moves the aircraft around from more expensive contractors to to cheaper ones, as well as the "carrot dangle" of a quick upgrade, CPP, etc.........

jsled 11-19-2016 02:52 PM

Investor Updates show UAL had 322 ERJ135/145/CRJ200s at the end of 2014. 254 at the end of this year. That's 68 hulls. GONE. Beautiful. Also, 490 total RJs end of 2016 v 566 end of 2014. That's a decrease of 76 RJs net of the 76 seater increase.

It's like McDonalds....I'm loving it.

Sled

buscappy 11-19-2016 07:52 PM

[QUOTE=awax;2246467]All I'm in agreement with, is that you write like a sixth grade girl with ADHD. Good God man! :p

And I think you're not being fair to sixth grade girls with ADHD; they write better, I'm fairly sure

webecheck 11-20-2016 06:59 AM

Know your audience, right?

deltajuliet 11-20-2016 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by hslightnin (Post 2246373)
Who's CPA is up next with 700s?

There's a rumor Mesa might take their 700's out of IAD and place them with another partner. Just rumor, though.

MAGA 11-20-2016 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 2246473)
"the 50 seater is dead!!!!!"

Sadly, that isn't happening anywhere near the timeline many thought it would.

Management simply moves the aircraft around from more expensive contractors to to cheaper ones, as well as the "carrot dangle" of a quick upgrade, CPP, etc.........

Wait till Trump starts drilling.... oil prices will plummet and management will keep cheap 50 seaters around even longer as their ASM costs plummet and well.

jsled 11-20-2016 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by MAGA (Post 2246854)
Wait till Trump starts drilling.... oil prices will plummet and management will keep cheap 50 seaters around even longer as their ASM costs plummet and well.

Silly thing to say. Under Obama, fracking already made the USA virtually energy independent. Supply and demand already caused oil to plummet. Record profits and contracts are the result. Enjoy.

RJDio 11-20-2016 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 2247017)
Silly thing to say. Under Obama, fracking already made the USA virtually energy independent. Supply and demand already caused oil to plummet. Record profits and contracts are the result. Enjoy.

Fracking succeeded in spite of Barry.

gloopy 11-20-2016 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by RJDio (Post 2247073)
Fracking succeeded in spite of Barry.

Exactly. And the recent boon from low oil is the result of SA opening up the spigots full blast specifically to target and bankrupt our domestic infrastructure. They started way, way too late and they won't succeed.

jsled 11-20-2016 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by RJDio (Post 2247073)
Fracking succeeded in spite of Barry.

Whateves bro. It still happened DURING his administration. Kinda like the damn near tripling of the stock market. Cha freak'n Ching baby!!! Feels good drill seargent.

RJDio 11-20-2016 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 2247158)
Whateves bro. It still happened DURING his administration. Kinda like the damn near tripling of the stock market. Cha freak'n Ching baby!!! Feels good drill seargent.

Who knew Eleanor Clift was a UAL pilot. Things are good. Now imagine how good it would be if we had a pro capitalism president with a robust economy to go along with it? But I'm no drill sergeant. I'm just a whinny millennial :D

jsled 11-20-2016 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by RJDio (Post 2247174)
Who knew Eleanor Clift was a UAL pilot. Things are good. Now imagine how good it would be if we had a pro capitalism president with a robust economy to go along with it? But I'm not drill sergeant. I'm just a whinny millennial :D

Like Reagan? With the scabbed out strikes and b-scales? Bush? With the bankruptcies and pension terminations? Our current contract is the best ever except maybe under Clinton. Just keep throwing gear and hope you don't get furloughed, newbie. 😆

chrisreedrules 11-21-2016 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by deltajuliet (Post 2246741)
There's a rumor Mesa might take their 700's out of IAD and place them with another partner. Just rumor, though.

And who else is not close to scoped out on RJs? And how will Mesa staff them in a year?

RJDio 11-21-2016 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by jsled (Post 2247176)
Like Reagan? With the scabbed out strikes and b-scales? Bush? With the bankruptcies and pension terminations? Our current contract is the best ever except maybe under Clinton. Just keep throwing gear and hope you don't get furloughed, newbie. 😆

I believe the only people the old gipper tried compelling to go back to work was the controllers. The actions of the scabs of the 80's speaks for itself. I doubt bubba or Barack could've talked them out of their contemptible actions.

As to the bankruptcy and lost pensions, I'd say Tilton and Judge Wedoff had probably more to do with that than W. But believe me when I say I'm thrilled slinging gear. And keep those new hires coming.

82spukram 11-21-2016 07:03 PM

All you need to know about Bankruptcy is the 95th United States congress.
Passed

House:405-4
Senate: 51-20


Point the finger all you want but someone opened the door and it was not Bush.

They also brought us the fine gift of the 401k (you know that other option to the pension.)


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