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Originally Posted by Chuck D
(Post 2245783)
Is there even a line to be held? Doesn't the company currently have the option to add SNB and then add more RJs as specified?
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Got it. Was referring to UAL where if I understand correctly, the SNB add and subsequent specified RJ add is at the co's discretion.
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Originally Posted by AV82SKI
(Post 2245786)
I've tried to keep track of the 175 orders. It can be difficult because several orders never mentioned which regional would operate the aircraft. The fleet plan for 2016 ends the year with 114 E175's. My guess is that the 2017 fleet plan will have 153 175's as the year end total (the current limit).
My best estimate on the final 175 fleet: Skywest 58 Mesa 45 Republic 50 Total of 153. |
Originally Posted by Chuck D
(Post 2245783)
Is there even a line to be held? Doesn't the company currently have the option to add SNB and then add more RJs as specified?
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Originally Posted by jsled
(Post 2245796)
with a corresponding decrease in 70 seaters to accommodate the 255 current limit (70+76). No net gain in airframes. Just swaps.
2016 fleet count shows 114 E175's, 38 E170's and 79 CRJ 700's. Thats a total of 231 70/76 seaters. Lets just assume they will add 39 more E175's to the fleet for a total of 153 E175's. That means 15 70 seaters would need to be parked to be in compliance with the 255 70/76 limit. |
https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/express-fleet-tracking
Current and future deliveries. |
Originally Posted by AV82SKI
(Post 2245824)
Thats not entirely true but pretty close (assuming my math is right).
2016 fleet count shows 114 E175's, 38 E170's and 79 CRJ 700's. Thats a total of 231 70/76 seaters. Lets just assume they will add 39 more E175's to the fleet for a total of 153 E175's. That means 15 70 seaters would need to be parked to be in compliance with the 255 70/76 limit. Year end 2016: CRJ700 79 EMB170 38 E175 114 E175 on order 24 Total 255 (138- 76 seaters) They have/had to park 13- Q400s and 36- 700s to get here. They can get 17 more 76- seaters if they swap them out for 70- seaters. Don't know if they have any more on order. |
[QUOTE=jsled;2245880]You must not have read my post above...UAL just annonced 24 E175s for delivery next year.. That's 255 by my count.
The 24 are previous orders for RAH. The only change is that UAL is purchasing the aircraft and leasing to RAH as opposed to RAH leasing the aircraft to be flown for UAL. Those 24 are already included in my count of 153 E175's that have been ordered/delivered. You are correct that it would get to 255 70/76 seaters. But with current orders for 175's the count would hit the limit of 153 76 seaters (add 39 more) and 15 70 seaters would need to be removed (still 255 70/76 seaters). |
Gloopy
The 717 you reference is Similar to what we have. 88 SNB would get them more RJs. I believe the total number of regional aircraft being flown would be 450. Like I said our contract in this respect is nearly identical. |
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Originally Posted by jsled
(Post 2245880)
You must not have read my post above...UAL just annonced 24 E175s for delivery next year.. That's 255 by my count.
The 24 are previous orders for RAH. The only change is that UAL is purchasing the aircraft and leasing to RAH as opposed to RAH leasing the aircraft to be flown for UAL. Those 24 are already included in my count of 153 E175's that have been ordered/delivered. You are correct that it would get to 255 70/76 seaters. But with current orders for 175's the count would hit the limit of 153 76 seaters (add 39 more) and 15 70 seaters would need to be removed (still 255 70/76 seaters). <Sigh> We're saying the same thing different ways. :confused: With these 24 aircraft..that this thread is about...plus the year end RJ fleet, we're at 255. So ANY additional 76 seaters (after this 24) will require UAL to park a 70 seater one for one. Just like I said. And yes..153-138=15. (To your point). Arrhggg. That was painful. :D |
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