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Originally Posted by gettinbumped
(Post 2251231)
Sweet. Really glad you made it home
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Sounds like nothing has changed on ferry flights. 20 years ago I flew an empty 747 IAD to SFO while our FAs had to deadhead on a different plane.
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Originally Posted by 2old2fly
(Post 2251491)
Sounds like nothing has changed on ferry flights. 20 years ago I flew an empty 747 IAD to SFO while our FAs had to deadhead on a different plane.
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Originally Posted by syd111
(Post 2251535)
Sorry but this would not happen today and you might have more than just the fa's on board
Repositioning flights can carry F/A's, and I've carried offline jumpseaters on those segments. Charters are owned by the charter department and can make up their own rules within FAA regs. Dedicated cargo flights, RIP, also had the ability to dictate who flew on the aircraft sans F/As |
Originally Posted by awax
(Post 2251553)
Repositioning flights can carry F/A's, and I've carried offline jumpseaters on those segments.
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Originally Posted by awax
(Post 2251553)
Yeah, I think you guys are talking about different scenarios. A repositioning flight, a charter, and a maintenance ferry all have different rules. By the regs, a maintenance ferry where the aircraft is flown in a non-standard configuration, engine out ferry on a 4 engine a/c for example, is limited to required flightcrew members. Line UAL pilots no longer see these segments as we have engineering & test pilots to fly them.
Repositioning flights can carry F/A's, and I've carried offline jumpseaters on those segments. Charters are owned by the charter department and can make up their own rules within FAA regs. Dedicated cargo flights, RIP, also had the ability to dictate who flew on the aircraft sans F/As |
Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
(Post 2250752)
I'm looking at that section. I don't see offline jumpseaters or offline non-revs mentioned on the list of approved passengers. I'd like to think a JS would be considered on its own terms and under the guise of the JS protocol but I wouldn't be surprised to get pushback in that one.
Doesn't matter in this case anyway, as the flight appears to be a positioning flight for a NFL charter and is presumably under the control of the charter department. Even a UA pilot would have to move mountains to get authority from the charter department if that is the case. |
Originally Posted by 757Driver
(Post 2251948)
Not true. I've carried friends on empty ferry flights before that I was working and all I did was contact the charter department. No hassle at all.
On one of my last MLB ferry flights (late summer 2015) they denied a UA jumpseater. FODM was no help so it was a pretty rediculous situation. I'm glad that others have had a better experience so there's hope. |
BTW, for those who may not know, UAL ALPA safety policy prohibits line pilots from ferrying/flying a plane that cannot carry passengers for any reason. That's what the flight test guys are for.
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Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald
(Post 2252542)
BTW, for those who may not know, UAL ALPA safety policy prohibits line pilots from ferrying/flying a plane that cannot carry passengers for any reason. That's what the flight test guys are for.
Recently did a MX drop off that was 'prohibited' from carry any passengers. Due to it going straight to the hangar. Also, on the LCAL side, I had done a maintenance flight around the patch to check for leaks around an emergency exit. Would do it again but now wonder if it is 'prohibited' or if it would even get put into open time~ Thanks Motch |
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