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Originally Posted by RJDio
(Post 2259132)
You mean the economic crisis that was created by Bill Clinton
The rest of your talking points were the result of digging out of the near depression brought on by the right wing's deregulation (for which we are headed back), demographics and globalization. Feel free to tell us what the Republicans did for those issues other than cause or exacerbate them. Next you'll be telling us the Republicans are pro-labor if not pro-union. To quote Melvin Udall, Go "sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here." |
Originally Posted by Flytolive
(Post 2259144)
He stupidly signed the Republican's repeal of Glass Steagall, but the global economic crisis was the result of one thing, leverage brought on by that bill and the repeal of the net capital rule by Bush's SEC Chairman Donaldson. It previously limited leverage to 12-1 for banks.
The rest of your talking points were the result of digging out of the near depression brought on by the right wing's deregulation (for which we are headed back), demographics and globalization. Feel free to tell us what the Republicans did for those issues other than cause or exacerbate them. Next you'll be telling us the Republicans are pro-labor if not pro-union. To quote Melvin Udall, Go "sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here." You can dismiss my "talking point", but the facts are the facts. But I guess that's never gotten in the way of the liberal narrative. Ultimately we have to look out for each other regardless of political affiliation. Fly the contract and fly safe. |
Here we go arguing about things that happened 10-20 years ago and have little bearing on today. Both US parties screwed us and it's doubtful either one really cares about us. Meanwhile NAI keeps grinding away:
They announced something like 20 weekly European flights going into Stewart NY this week. How about we put our political differences aside and focus on what really matters, squashing NAI UNITED any way we can? the pun was unintentional until I got there... |
Originally Posted by Bestglide
(Post 2259073)
When will B.O. ever be held accountable for anything?
Never! That's just the way the left is... |
Originally Posted by Wiggam
(Post 2259173)
How about we put our political differences aside and focus on what really matters, squashing NAI UNITED any way we can?
the pun was unintentional until I got there... If NAI is doing the same job for less, management will be keen to point that out in negotiations. Just like comps when shopping for a house. or comps when paying taxes on a house. When NAI gets a bigger and more threatening footprint, management may be forced to act, but like so many other airlines, if they get a strong foothold it may be hard to force them off the edge of the cliff. |
Originally Posted by RJDio
(Post 2259163)
Bill created the mechanism that propelled the housing crisis.
Originally Posted by RJDio
(Post 2259163)
If I'm not mistaken Bush had a balanced congress for most of his 8 years. Obama had a super majority
Here are some numbers that show how far we have come economically under Obama. Good and bad. http://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFil...-2016-Q2_4.png |
Originally Posted by baseball
(Post 2259240)
I don't see UAL as interested in squashing NAI. I see our management, at the present time as more interested in them co-existing. Their presence will help management justify downward pressure on lowering the cost of pilot labor. NAI's existence hurts all major US airlines in terms of their union's ability to argue for and justify higher wages.
If NAI is doing the same job for less, management will be keen to point that out in negotiations. Just like comps when shopping for a house. or comps when paying taxes on a house. When NAI gets a bigger and more threatening footprint, management may be forced to act, but like so many other airlines, if they get a strong foothold it may be hard to force them off the edge of the cliff. |
Originally Posted by Flytolive
(Post 2259084)
It is a matter of priorities. You might remember the global economic crisis? Saving 260,000 auto jobs much to the chagrin of the Republicans? Two wars? Killing bin Laden? Health care with no help from Republicans? Even with all that going on the Dems did manage to improve some of the labor provisions in 2009, but obviously not enough.
You said it brother! When your done thinking that Barry was the ultimate savior of the world and lowered sea levels maybe you can come back to the reality that he wasn't that friendly to labor? |
Here are some numbers that show how far we have come economically under Obama. Good and bad.
http://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFil...-2016-Q2_4.png[/QUOTE] any serious economist (of which there are none writing on this forum) understands that the unemployment rate is down because the labor participation rate is down. and that addresses the error in just one of the numbers in the chart. who knows how the other numbers were manipulated... |
Exactly labor participation at ALL TIME LOWS.
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