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Originally Posted by Ottolillienthal
(Post 2258266)
I am convinced that this and every other administration doesn't view airline pilots as "labor." Presidential administrations, I think, view us as highly paid professionals who happen to belong to a union for convenience. it's definitely more convenient to collectively bargain one contract as opposed to 50,000 separate ones. The traditional view of unions is that they represent blue collar working class folks.
If the democrats say they care about "labor." They aren't talking about airline pilots. They are talking about electricians, pipe fitters, and boiler-makers. The President (R, or D) like the fact that pilots are in a union. They can be controlled and manipulated that way through their respective bureaucracies and can exercise greater control over us through the railway labor act. The President knows strikes are over in the USA for airlines, so our only real leverage exists in just plain disruption and chaos type events. |
Originally Posted by Ottolillienthal
(Post 2258269)
The PAC appears to be impotent to me. So, I would recommend we do something else. Something different.
We all pay allot of dues to ALPA, and that's fine. I know I've paid over 80K in dues in my career. Lots of pilots paying ALPA big money. Maybe ALPA could get it done with what we already pay them. I can't believe the NAI, a little ole no-body-nothing group of wanna-be's and posers out maneuvered the Airline Pilots Association, the largest and most powerful Airline labor union in the world. It's OK to be PRO ALPA and pro something else besides the PAC. |
Originally Posted by Ottolillienthal
(Post 2258269)
The PAC appears to be impotent to me. So, I would recommend we do something else. Something different.
We all pay allot of dues to ALPA, and that's fine. I know I've paid over 80K in dues in my career. Lots of pilots paying ALPA big money. Maybe ALPA could get it done with what we already pay them. I can't believe the NAI, a little ole no-body-nothing group of wanna-be's and posers out maneuvered the Airline Pilots Association, the largest and most powerful Airline labor union in the world. It's OK to be PRO ALPA and pro something else besides the PAC. I don't think we were out maneuvered by little NAI, they had significant help from big bad Boeing who wanted the aircraft orders. Also the Norwegian CEO was an attorney involved in destroying the maritime industry. Not his first rodeo. He tries very hard to hide his involvement in that in interviews. |
Originally Posted by Wiggam
(Post 2258311)
Not sure if you are aware, but dues do not fund the PAC. Im unsure if it's illegal to have dues in politics or if it's policy.
I don't think we were out maneuvered by little NAI, they had significant help from big bad Boeing who wanted the aircraft orders. Also the Norwegian CEO was an attorney involved in destroying the maritime industry. Not his first rodeo. He tries very hard to hide his involvement in that in interviews. |
Originally Posted by Probe
(Post 2258525)
Dues money probably paid for the MEC to spend a month contemplating an email to send to the membership about how they support Hilary. Probably not ALPA-PAC money.
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Originally Posted by Ottolillienthal
(Post 2258269)
Maybe ALPA could get it done with what we already pay them.
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Originally Posted by Flytolive
(Post 2258546)
We are about to see why politics is so important to our prospects. Check out who the next DOT Secretary's father was. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_S.C._Chao
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Originally Posted by Probe
(Post 2258580)
I am not very smart. The wiki link shows his dad was a chinese school principle. I didn't recognize the name.
In 1964, after receiving his MBA, Chao founded Foremost Group, a shipping, trading and finance enterprise based in New York where he remains Chairman to this day. Chao has led the global shipping industry in incorporating “greener,” more environmentally friendly designs and technology into his company’s fleet of new vessels, some of the world’s largest bulk carriers. In 2004, Chao was inducted into the International Maritime Hall of Fame at the United Nations in recognition of his long-standing service and dedication to the international maritime trading industry. In July 2014, it was reported that Chao's Foremost Shipping had 15 ships in its fleet, but construction was underway for an additional 8 capesize bulkers. In August 2014, it was reported that the company engaged in the business practice known in the merchant industry as flag of convenience to limit his U.S. tax liability by flagging its ships in Liberia instead of the U.S.. Foremost was singled out in the story because Chao's son-in-law Senator Mitch McConnell expressed disinterest in July 2014 for limiting a similar controversial business practice known as corporate inversion. |
Originally Posted by Probe
(Post 2258580)
I am not very smart. The wiki link shows his dad was a chinese school principle. I didn't recognize the name.
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Originally Posted by Flytolive
(Post 2258546)
We are about to see why politics is so important to our prospects. Check out who the next DOT Secretary's father was. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_S.C._Chao
And if that's not enough, google Andrew Puzder. |
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