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Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
(Post 2256798)
Where will this new lobby group you speak of garner the power to benefit us?
But. I am reminded of how effective the "senior pilots coalition" was in inserting their wants and needs and representing their interests when age 60 went to 65. I am interested in another "lobby" or another vehicle that can perhaps supplement ALPA in pursuing global and international objectives in raising the bar in our profession. If a rag tag group of geriatric pilots can drive results that what about a highly motivated group? ALPA may be hamstrung by all of their buerocracy and internal conflicts of interest. |
Originally Posted by SpecialTracking
(Post 2256803)
Already convinced of the notion eh? Line in the sand or not, there is a negotiator's bullseye tattooed on your back.
As it's been said before..."it's cyclical." I don't disagree with that. All the company cares about is 51%. It's why CAL ALPA just negotiated on behalf of the narrowbody 737 pilots both in good contracts and in concessionary ones. |
Originally Posted by Grumble
(Post 2256842)
ALPAs PAC is as good as we allow it to be, how much do you donate every month?
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Originally Posted by baseball
(Post 2257172)
Not sure.
But. I am reminded of how effective the "senior pilots coalition" was in inserting their wants and needs and representing their interests when age 60 went to 65. I am interested in another "lobby" or another vehicle that can perhaps supplement ALPA in pursuing global and international objectives in raising the bar in our profession. If a rag tag group of geriatric pilots can drive results that what about a highly motivated group? ALPA may be hamstrung by all of their buerocracy and internal conflicts of interest. |
Originally Posted by ugleeual
(Post 2255193)
I actually think we need to put China on the defensive for a change... they currently are not afraid of the US... and they will continue to **** in our faces like they have in the South China Sea. I'd like to see Trump open up diplomatic ties with the Taiwan government and use it as a tool to get the Chinese military out of the South China Sea... I bet if we decided to rebuild a military base in Taiwan it would open their eyes.
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Originally Posted by baseball
(Post 2257176)
Because I see ALPA PAC as ineffective I have decided not to waste any more money there. We can contribute 100 percent of our monthly check to it. It doesn't seem to help. Perhaps ALPA PAC has the wrong model..... If ALPA PAC is the best we got, then I am afraid we need to figure something else out.
Did you even go so far as to write/email/call your reps on NAI? Don't need to answer, it doesn't matter. Point is can you honestly say to yourself you tried? Facebook reposts don't count. |
Originally Posted by baseball
(Post 2256778)
We need to have another political lobby group formed to represent our interests that is more powerful than those that are advancing their agenda's at our expense. If ALPA is not up to the task, then ALPA should say so and tell us that. It would be better to spend our money on something else in the political arena. As far as contract maintenance, negotiations, and enforcement, ALPA is doing Ok there.
Guess what? We live in a capitalistic democratic society in which the average person makes $50k, dislikes unions and hates airlines even more and you think ALPA-PAC is ineffective. WRONG! We are outgunned and most pilots don't even like the fact that they are dependent upon their union for making a decent living. But please let us know when you figure out your majic political solution. I for one am all ears and wait with unbridled anticipation for your cure for all that ails the piloting profession. |
If we are talking tactics we played the game wrong. DOT is at the pleasure of the CInC and we were talking to congress.
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Curious: United stock is UP, over $70 and change, after NAI approval....
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