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Paperboi 12-13-2016 04:19 PM

It was 12 years ago and examiner might not have put in logbook so there are 3 in my logbook and possibly a 4th that he forgot to enter. It was 12 years ago...how good is your memory from 2005? My friend is at United with 2 DUIs, one recent so ill take your HUGE problem with a HUGE grain of salt.


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 2262066)
Okay,

How can you have no training issues and have 3 OR 4 (what is it 3 or 4?) check ride failures? And yes I'd say that is a HUGE problem.


Paperboi 12-13-2016 04:21 PM

And i said ive had zero training failures in past 12 years with 4 jet types.


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 2262066)
Okay,

How can you have no training issues and have 3 OR 4 (what is it 3 or 4?) check ride failures? And yes I'd say that is a HUGE problem.


GyroNole 12-13-2016 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by Paperboi (Post 2262060)
Has anyone been hired with 3 or 4 checkride failures from back in commercial and CFI training but 0 training problems in last 12 years with several Jet 121 types and jet PIC? Im just finishing degree and would love to come to United next year but afraid these failures from 2005 might hurt. Anyone with similar experience?



I would apply, update frequently, and let United decide if its huge deal or not


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Aquaticus 12-13-2016 04:34 PM

Being untruthful doesn't just kill your chances with an airline, it defines you as a person. Are you that insecure with who you are as a person that you need to compensate? Three or four is still a lot when you are competing against people with clean records who are openly admitting their faults. A mistake that you own and grow from is easily forgiven but a mistake that you deny and lie to conceal is a blemish that can't be forgiven.

Paperboi 12-13-2016 04:39 PM

Thank you for your reply but how am I being untruthful? I openly admit it here and also did so on my application. I was a young kid and eager to finish as quickly as possible. Didnt realize checkride failures could have an effect later on down the road. Ive obviously learned from my mistakes and havent made another in over 12 years.


Originally Posted by Aquaticus (Post 2262084)
Being untruthful doesn't just kill your chances with an airline, it defines you as a person. Are you that insecure with who you are as a person that you need to compensate? Three or four is still a lot when you are competing against people with clean records who are openly admitting their faults. A mistake that you own and grow from is easily forgiven but a mistake that you deny and lie to conceal is a blemish that can't be forgiven.


MasterOfPuppets 12-13-2016 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by Paperboi (Post 2262074)
It was 12 years ago and examiner might not have put in logbook so there are 3 in my logbook and possibly a 4th that he forgot to enter. It was 12 years ago...how good is your memory from 2005? My friend is at United with 2 DUIs, one recent so ill take your HUGE problem with a HUGE grain of salt.

He "might" have forgotten to put it in the logbook?

There is "possibly" a fourth failure?

My memory from 2005 is fantastic and I'm sure as **** Gona remember if I ever failed a checkride.

So did you fail 3 or 4? Tell the truth.

If you don't tell the truth to yourself then how you can possibly pass an interview?

Contrail06 12-13-2016 04:56 PM

+1............

Paperboi 12-13-2016 05:02 PM

Okay, I went to a part 141 flight school with a ton of end of courses and stage checks. It could have been one of those that was the 4th. I really dont remember so ill just say 4. Is there some special line between 3 and 4 failures that im not aware of?


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 2262098)
He "might" have forgotten to put it in the logbook?

There is "possibly" a fourth failure?

My memory from 2005 is fantastic and I'm sure as **** Gona remember if I ever failed a checkride.

So did you fail 3 or 4? Tell the truth.

If you don't tell the truth to yourself then how you can possibly pass an interview?


MasterOfPuppets 12-13-2016 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by Paperboi (Post 2262107)
Okay, I went to a part 141 flight school with a ton of end of courses and stage checks. It could have been one of those that was the 4th. I really dont remember so ill just say 4. Is there some special line between 3 and 4 failures that im not aware of?

No it's about honesty.....

and for your information failing a stage check at a 141 flight school will not hurt you at all. I think I understand now why you don't remember.

Failed rateing rides and 121 checkrides will hurt you.

So did you fail stage checks? Or rateing rides?

cadetdrivr 12-13-2016 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 2262110)
So did you fail stage checks? Or rateing rides?

This.

A "failure" on a 141 stage check is not really a failure.


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