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mrvmo 05-06-2017 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by Swedish Blender (Post 2358660)
One of the retirements was a 2006 hire in her mid 40s. Didn't really help anyone move up.

Great! Thanks Debbie...

Swedish Blender 05-06-2017 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by mrvmo (Post 2358679)
Great! Thanks Debbie...

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Ray Kinsella 05-06-2017 06:27 PM

Must be the 10 weeks of vacation our senior guys get.

Airbum 05-07-2017 05:15 PM

just for info, its 5 weeks vacation.

FTFF 05-07-2017 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by Airbum (Post 2359266)
just for info, its 5 weeks vacation.

At least 14 if they got any decent seniority. 2 weeks vacay with OCV is 4 weeks guaranteed plus at least 1 week before and after with smart bidding totaling 6 weeks off. They can do this twice then conflict bid vacation week number 5 for at least 2 more weeks.

Ray Kinsella 05-07-2017 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by FTFF (Post 2359297)
At least 14 if they got any decent seniority. 2 weeks vacay with OCV is 4 weeks guaranteed plus at least 1 week before and after with smart bidding totaling 6 weeks off. They can do this twice then conflict bid vacation week number 5 for at least 2 more weeks.


And guys with over 10 years are getting 8 weeks, which can turn to 10-12 pretty easily. Want to know why there hasn't been a mass exodus? It's because if OCV. We are still desperately short with tons of JA calls--IN MAY!

PastV1by10 05-07-2017 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by FTFF (Post 2359297)
At least 14 if they got any decent seniority. 2 weeks vacay with OCV is 4 weeks guaranteed plus at least 1 week before and after with smart bidding totaling 6 weeks off. They can do this twice then conflict bid vacation week number 5 for at least 2 more weeks.

Who needs OCV except the very junior??? Senior guys can get eight weeks off easily with two weeks and three with the one remaining week. That is 19 weeks a year! Don't need OCV for that, just good bidding, thats why the numbers departing were so low!

Swedish Blender 05-07-2017 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by Ray Kinsella (Post 2359316)
And guys with over 10 years are getting 8 weeks, which can turn to 10-12 pretty easily.

11 full years, not 10. Just FYI

Airbum 05-08-2017 03:15 AM


Originally Posted by FTFF (Post 2359297)
At least 14 if they got any decent seniority. 2 weeks vacay with OCV is 4 weeks guaranteed plus at least 1 week before and after with smart bidding totaling 6 weeks off. They can do this twice then conflict bid vacation week number 5 for at least 2 more weeks.

I love vacation, but just want to be clear about it for others. UPS offers 5 weeks of paid vacation a year. Any days off around your vacation are not paid vacation days.

Counting days not working and not getting paid, as vacation would mean that pilots on average get two weeks of vacation every month. If a vacation is simply a paid or unpaid day of not working then I agree with the you and the other posters.

Example:

13 "months" in a year
work two weeks a "month"
26 work weeks in a year
5 weeks of paid vacation
26-5 =21 weeks of work for the year.
(rounded for simplicity)( History major here so my math maybe wrong)

Those senior guys are still working the equivalent of 21 weeks spread out through the year.

I agree that a UPS pilot can easily have 4 weeks in a row off. However two weeks of those days are vacation days and the other two weeks are the pilots normal non paid days off. OCV is a great program for us and lets those less senior actually use vacation to drop a day of work.

CactusCrew 05-08-2017 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by Airbum (Post 2359416)
I love vacation, but just want to be clear about it for others. UPS offers 5 weeks of paid vacation a year. Any days off around your vacation are not paid vacation days.

Counting days not working and not getting paid, as vacation would mean that pilots on average get two weeks of vacation every month. If a vacation is simply a paid or unpaid day of not working then I agree with the you and the other posters.

Example:

13 "months" in a year
work two weeks a "month"
26 work weeks in a year
5 weeks of paid vacation
26-5 =21 weeks of work for the year.
(rounded for simplicity)( History major here so my math maybe wrong)

Those senior guys are still working the equivalent of 21 weeks spread out through the year.

I agree that a UPS pilot can easily have 4 weeks in a row off. However two weeks of those days are vacation days and the other two weeks are the pilots normal non paid days off. OCV is a great program for us and lets those less senior actually use vacation to drop a day of work.

^^^^^

This !

And to clarify, that 5 weeks of VAC is available at year 21.

:)


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