Apr 9th class:
13 747
3 A300
4 MD11
Subject to change.

Congrats and welcome to the new guys and gals

How much open time pick up is taken into your math?

Simple Math:

Current 2nd year FO rate $175.72, in Sept 2018 it becomes $180.99
75 hours a pay period
13 pay periods a year

$180 x 75 x 13 = $175,500

Per Diem, overtime lines above 75, pick-up of open time, Junior Assignments, Late Arrivals, and flying over vacation will take it "north of $200"

The availability of these options is largely random and determined by fleet and domicile.

Someone smarter than me can post an average annual per diem amount, average overtime amount, etc

This simple $175,500 number is just the amount you see in the bank at pay day. Plenty of other compensation is deposited into a pension fund and a Fidelity account. Including those amounts would push pay over $200 without any additional "overtime" time, but you don't see it and spend it on pay day ... FWIW

MD11 FO... I hold VTO lines. I trip trade with open time for an additional 10-20 hours or occasionally pickup pilot trip board drops. Haven't had a JA or premium pay the entire year, and will NOT fly over my vacation either. With absolute certainty I will go north of 200k this year. If I wanted to max it out and go 200-208 hours per bid period, it would be 220k.

So I, and anyone else who gets hired here needs to give the IPA pilots a huge thank you.

Did this end up being the actual drop?

Nope, 2 A300 not 3. 19 total IPA pilots hired in that class.


RB

One no-show. Went to SWA

Have had several new hires leave for FedEx, Delta and SWA after starting class that no one is talking about.

There is no loyalty anymore. You are given the privilege to work for a great company, with great benefits, most likely the last Aviation job you will ever need, yet one slaps employer in the face after having spent valuable time and money to train you.

Not saying by any means UPS is a perfect place to work, far from it. But at least do your homework properly so you go in eyes wide open. Even worse is going in with the mentality of I’ll give it a shot and if not, I’ll bail. If SWA, Delta, whatever is your preferred choice, great, nothing wrong with that, but why make any employer spend all that time and effort if you have a good idea you are leaving?