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Learflyer 12-13-2018 04:13 AM


Originally Posted by wrxpilot (Post 2724193)
Agreed. That’s a bizarre comment.



A couple years ago I was told by an AA recruiter that I should quit my RJ job, go to Frontier or Spirit and “Learn how to fly big airplanes” to be competitive at AA. At the time I was a CRJ PIC flying multiple legs into Aspen every week. I was without question the sharpest I’ll ever be in my career at that time. His comment was clearly laughable, stupid, and I’m sure not representative of most people at AA.



I was told nearly the same at my AA meet and greet at the WAI job fair. At the time I was (and still) flying a squirrelly Citation X into the most challenging airports and all kinds of weather. He told me to go to The regionals, and perhaps get a large cabin type like the 320 and come back.

navigatro 12-13-2018 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by Learflyer (Post 2724225)
I was told nearly the same at my AA meet and greet at the WAI job fair. At the time I was (and still) flying a squirrelly Citation X into the most challenging airports and all kinds of weather. He told me to go to The regionals, and perhaps get a large cabin type like the 320 and come back.

airlines like to see 121 time. It proves you can pass a known/structured training program. Don't shoot the messenger.

Vital Signs 12-13-2018 07:09 AM

From that article, what does the year-long internship consist of before you get the enjoyment of Ameriflight?

Let me get this straight. UPS wants to take someone with limited knowledge and flying skills and “train” them by using ameriflight to the UPS standards?
Why not take an individual who has extensive aviation knowledge and skills and train them to UPS standards?

Learflyer 12-13-2018 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by navigatro (Post 2724287)
airlines like to see 121 time. It proves you can pass a known/structured training program. Don't shoot the messenger.

Only for certain applicants.

Learflyer 12-13-2018 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by Vital Signs (Post 2724318)
From that article, what does the year-long internship consist of before you get the enjoyment of Ameriflight?

Let me get this straight. UPS wants to take someone with limited knowledge and flying skills and “train” them by using ameriflight to the UPS standards?
Why not take an individual who has extensive aviation knowledge and skills and train them to UPS standards?

That's the way it used to be!

MrFriendly7 12-13-2018 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by navigatro (Post 2724287)
airlines like to see 121 time. It proves you can pass a known/structured training program. Don't shoot the messenger.

There it is

navigatro 12-13-2018 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by Learflyer (Post 2724350)
Only for certain applicants.

It goes without saying that military fixed-wing pilot training fills this square. (as viewed by those doing the hiring)

TiredSoul 12-13-2018 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by iflyme (Post 2724220)
I don't mean generic knowledge, but have some pretty in-depth knowledge of what UPS does, the services they provide, history of UPS, some of the cutting edge moves they've made in the past, and the tenets of how UPS operates.

Isn’t that what company Indoc is for ?
:rolleyes:

BoilerUP 12-13-2018 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by Vital Signs
Why not take an individual who has extensive aviation knowledge and skills and train them to UPS standards?

UPS does that with every single pilot hired, regardless if their background is military, 91, 91K/135, 121 or a variety of some or all the above.

Think about it this way: by UPS creating a program for interns to go to AMF and gain real-world experience flying freight in twin turboprops before having the opportunity to wear brown polyester, they have created a small but steady stream of new pilots to fly their feeder aircraft instead of those former interns going to a regional airline to build the experience necessary to be considered for employment flying for UPS.

It is a win/win for UPS, Ameriflight and UPS interns alike - and for interns it is a moderate risk but extremely high reward proposition.

As to your question about 'what does the year-long internship consist of?', I cannot speak for the current program but as a former Training Center Co-op much of my duties revolved around program development.

longhauler 12-13-2018 08:21 PM

a rough idea of what a recent interview candidate had.

Total Time
14000+
Part 121 Turbine
9000+
Instrument
900+
PIC Total
8000+
Multi-Engine
13000+


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