Originally Posted by howardhughes8 (Post 2826320)

Absolutely ZERO tolerance at UPS. No alcohol, even sealed, in your bags. If you jumpseat on another carrier, assume you have to abide by their policy.

Originally Posted by howardhughes8 (Post 2826307)

This statement is so stereotypical and uninformed. Just because you made one bad decision during one drinking day doesn’t mean you have a disease. Heck, 90% of pilots have a disease based on this comment. ANYONE can have a “fun” night/day that can lead to a bit too much without doing it on a regular basis. So unless you know this person, assuming he/she has a “disease” is just plain dumb. It’s like the person who gets a DUI because he simply had ONE night of too much to drink, and got caught in an unfortunate situation.

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Originally Posted by navigatro (Post 2826353)

with all due respect, you are the one who is uninformed.



as professional pilots, we all know that our careers (and freedom) are at risk if you push the limits, which are clear, and very low.



If you have a "fun" night and fail to call in sick, then you have made a life changing error in judgement.



The FAA and criminal justice authorities have ZERO tolerance for these errors.



If a "night of fun" is worth more than your career, reputation, and freedom, then you likely have a serious problem.



Get help before you get caught.

Originally Posted by Vito (Post 2826386)

Question,
If the pilot who blew the .16 and is currently arrested, volunteers to enter the HIMs program, can he/she keep their job at UPS?

Originally Posted by brownie (Post 2826416)

Too late...Hims is a self disclosed program...

Originally Posted by howardhughes8 (Post 2826307)

This statement is so stereotypical and uninformed. Just because you made one bad decision during one drinking day doesn’t mean you have a disease. Heck, 90% of pilots have a disease based on this comment. ANYONE can have a “fun” night/day that can lead to a bit too much without doing it on a regular basis. So unless you know this person, assuming he/she has a “disease” is just plain dumb. It’s like the person who gets a DUI because he simply had ONE night of too much to drink, and got caught in an unfortunate situation.

Unfortunately for the person involved, if the incident is factual, UPS can’t do anything about it. Heck, we are probably the only “airline” that you cannot carry ANY alcohol in your bag because ONE person made a scene we all have to wear diapers. From a 100+ year company you would think they take action on an individual basis, not at UPS. So a pilot goes to Argentina, wants to bring back a nice SEALED bottle of wine, no can do. You will get fired if caught [emoji2357]

Originally Posted by Burton78 (Post 2826436)

Wow.. I rarely tote booze around, but why on Earth is this a "Fireable" offense? Definitely bizarre.

Originally Posted by howardhughes8 (Post 2826390)

Why do people keep saying “get help”? Is EVERY pilot who has a drink or two beyond his/her limit a person who needs “help”? This is an ignorant statement, pure and simple. In case you haven’t noticed, not every pilot is a drunk and most definitely the vast majority of pilots are responsible folks as you “claim”.