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Is there anywhere people are posting general stats, flight hours, etc? Maybe I've missed it. Question is due to me hitting 1900tt, 1600pic, 500tpic, 1000 turbine in about 60 days and plan to apply once I knock the ATP out. I'm currently flying king air 350s for ISR. Just wondering if without 121, mil or cargo time, if I've got a chance.

i think non-mil guys flying king airs need about 8000+ hours to be competitive. yes I am serious.

I'm a retired military guy who ended up with a little over 4500 hours with about 3500 of that as PIC/Instructor/Evaluator on a heavy jet.... that being said, in my class, I was bottom third in terms of time. We had a guy in class with 10K plus hours. Take that for what it's worth. Good luck with your future endeavors.

I have a similar profile - I flew a King Air 350 for a long time to get the TPIC then went ACMI recently to get the heavy/intl 121 time. I am currently at roughly 4500 TT, 1200 TPIC, 1600 Turbine, Master's degree, etc. and in with an active app but still figure its a major long shot. I don't know that the King Air alone will be enough to have a shot without a ridiculous amount of flight time.

Good insight, thanks for the post and info.

Appreciate the reply, goals to shoot for from a relatable background. Thanks again.

I also followed a similar route. After King Airs I went the ACMI route to get the heavy/int'l jet time. In class now. There are a bunch of us here. Get your app in now, and update at the end of every year. Company notices how many applications you have had on file. Good luck!

I would update every month at a minimum, not every year. You’ll have to fill out a new app each January.

They do notice how often you update and the more you do it, the more they’ll appreciate it.

Has anyone heard of someone getting hired at UPS without a college degree? Currently captain with PSA with 9000+ hours and part 121 experience, but no college degree because I spent all my time flying. Are they still requiring it? Should I work on a college degree just to have it or work on check airman, simulator instructor, etc?


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I know two guys post 2014 hired without college degrees. Both were regional guys. One was AW, the other RPA. One was a Green Beret, the other in the training dept. However, they did have most of their credits. Do the math. Odds are overwhelmingly against you, but hey roll the dice. Or suck it up and get the degree that will meet every airline app that matters. Doesn't seem like much of a decision. If you have a really cool story as to why you don't it might work out.
So man up and join the Special Forces or get your online degree.

We absolutely have and continue to hire pilots without a bachelors degree. However, you have to stand out as a pilot. Having 9,000+ hours with no check airman or sim instructor time makes you look like a RJ guy who has been coasting for years. The guys who have no degree will be check airmen at multiple companies and probably have almost as much wide body international time as you have total. However, if you knock out a bachelor degree (doesn’t matter what, just accredited) and pick up a 747, 777, A380, or 767 type you will suddenly be competitive. Assuming you also grab the check airman title before leaving your current company. We do hire some guys straight from the regionals, but they have checked all the boxes (LCA, degree, etc).