Originally Posted by FTv3
(Post 3291158)
For getting a better idea of the UPS employee culture here’s the best example I can come up with: UPS is like WaMu. Sure, you can deal with it and live your life, but it’s just unpleasant. ? |
What folks need to understand is that working for UPS is not like working at other aviation jobs due to it’s vastly different culture. This should be weighed by everyone who wants to work here, and weighed heavily, as money and benefits are not everything in life, especially if you are going to spend the next 20-30 years here. It will get old and tiring very quickly. Combine this unique culture that has been described with the completely eroded schedules and you have a no bueno combination.
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I have found the people who have a good life outside of UPS don’t t even notice the UPS games…but the folks who are stressed outside of work..then UPS will increase that stress.
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Originally Posted by jetlaggy
(Post 3292696)
I have found the people who have a good life outside of UPS don’t t even notice the UPS games…but the folks who are stressed outside of work..then UPS will increase that stress.
Very much this. I’ve lived on both sides of the fence and I’d take UPS any day without a second thought. Very happy here as are many I know. That said, it’s certainly not for everyone. |
So let’s see… constantly getting shorted, unable to change schedule due to denials my scheduling, BV days pretty much worthless, always having to watch what you say outside the cockpit, scheduling constantly violating the contract, etc. it doesn’t matter if you work 10 or 30 days a month, at some point you are affected. Throw in the mix our horrific schedules (unless you are super senior and get something decent)…
Good for you guys that think everything is rosy. FYI, married 25 years with a great life outside of work, great kids, one thing has nothing to do with the other. There is a reason we are seeing retirements under 65 tick up, have flown with 2 in the last month and half, it ain’t because it’s all balloons and ponies. Lots of people are fed up. |
Originally Posted by C2078
(Post 3292798)
So let’s see… constantly getting shorted, unable to change schedule due to denials my scheduling, BV days pretty much worthless, always having to watch what you say outside the cockpit, scheduling constantly violating the contract, etc. it doesn’t matter if you work 10 or 30 days a month, at some point you are affected. Throw in the mix our horrific schedules (unless you are super senior and get something decent)…
Good for you guys that think everything is rosy. FYI, married 25 years with a great life outside of work, great kids, one thing has nothing to do with the other. There is a reason we are seeing retirements under 65 tick up, have flown with 2 in the last month and half, it ain’t because it’s all balloons and ponies. Lots of people are fed up. If you think it’s all roses on the other side, you’re lacking perspective. |
Originally Posted by flyguy23
(Post 3292805)
If you think it’s all roses on the other side, you’re lacking perspective.
If retirement, I don’t know a single guy who wishes he would still be here. As in another job, fair enough, I will give you that. But, there are places that have a better working environment and show some resemblance of decency towards it’s employees. |
Originally Posted by jetlaggy
(Post 3292696)
I have found the people who have a good life outside of UPS don’t t even notice the UPS games…but the folks who are stressed outside of work..then UPS will increase that stress.
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Originally Posted by C2078
(Post 3292807)
The other side as in retirement or another job?
If retirement, I don’t know a single guy who wishes he would still be here. As in another job, fair enough, I will give you that. But, there are places that have a better working environment and show some resemblance of decency towards it’s employees. |
Originally Posted by C2078
(Post 3292807)
The other side as in retirement or another job?
If retirement, I don’t know a single guy who wishes he would still be here. As in another job, fair enough, I will give you that. But, there are places that have a better working environment and show some resemblance of decency towards it’s employees. |
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