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tnkrdrvr 02-05-2022 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by ak68W (Post 3366526)
So where permitted by law I would assume excludes those who live in states that made employer mandates illegal? How many deaths, serious adverse reactions and subsequent medical losses have they had or do they hide that?

The state you choose to live in has no impact on UPS’ ability to make a pilot get vaccinated. The debate over whether the vaccine is a positive or negative is separate. If you are looking to get hired here, odds are you will have to be vaccinated. You don’t have to like it or agree with it. You are just an hourly sweaty, they really don’t care what you think.

ak68W 02-05-2022 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr (Post 3366545)
The state you choose to live in has no impact on UPS’ ability to make a pilot get vaccinated. The debate over whether the vaccine is a positive or negative is separate. If you are looking to get hired here, odds are you will have to be vaccinated. You don’t have to like it or agree with it. You are just an hourly sweaty, they really don’t care what you think.


I don’t believe there is a debate anymore, however there are legal paths, and interpretations by HR and management alike.

C2078 02-05-2022 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by ak68W (Post 3366551)
I don’t believe there is a debate anymore, however there are legal paths, and interpretations by HR and management alike.

Even our Union stated they cannot get involved with a potential new hire who isn’t even on the property yet. They acknowledged UPS can require whatever they want before a person joins the IPA (from a legal perspective, the IPA is powerless to get involved in this scenario).

State, federal issues is another deal. As we have seen with United, you will be fired as a pilot if you refuse vaccination, and unfortunately this type of employment mandate is being held up in court.

McBoeingBus 02-05-2022 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by C2078 (Post 3366642)
As we have seen with United, you will be fired as a pilot if you refuse vaccination, and unfortunately this type of employment mandate is being held up in court.

That's misleading. UPS does not currently have a mandate for current pilots. No pilot has been fired at UPS for no having a vaccine.

C2078 02-05-2022 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by McBoeingBus (Post 3366772)
That's misleading. UPS does not currently have a mandate for current pilots. No pilot has been fired at UPS for no having a vaccine.

it is not misleading. If you don’t get the jab, you will not get the job. Period. Completely separate from existing pilots.

ak68W 02-05-2022 04:24 PM

There is a bill in Kentucky that was pre filed that if passed would prohibit employers from implementing these useless mandates. Also, several courts have struck down the federal contractor mandate which is the excuse these companies were using in the past to justify policy mandating the MRNA/AAV injections. While it’s disgusting that this has even reached this point it will be sadly interesting to see how this all shakes out.

SpeedTaped 02-05-2022 04:42 PM

I interviewed. Informed them I had Title V Exemption at current employer. Was offered Accommodation. Filled out requested documents. Was denied and interview conclusion was TBNT.

JABS FOR JOBS

ak68W 02-05-2022 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by SpeedTaped (Post 3366843)
I interviewed. Informed them I had Title V Exemption at current employer. Was offered Accommodation. Filled out requested documents. Was denied and interview conclusion was TBNT.

JABS FOR JOBS

Wow. What a great culture to work at it seems.

hammer pants 02-05-2022 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by ak68W (Post 3366848)
Wow. What a great culture to work at it seems.

Haha if “culture” is something you care about you will hate working for UPS. Might as well save yourself some time and not apply.

C2078 02-05-2022 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by hammer pants (Post 3366856)
Haha if “culture” is something you care about you will hate working for UPS. Might as well save yourself some time and not apply.

I could not agree more!! Someone gets it. Culture here is not what appears to the outside world. The face of being this great socially caring, socially responsible, caring for it’s employees is most definitely not what people see.


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