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jetlaggy 08-25-2022 07:39 PM

Dec new hire class
 
Who’s up next?

jayrobe50 08-26-2022 02:38 AM

CJO for the 5 Dec class

C27J 08-26-2022 03:06 AM

6 Dec class for me.

tnkrdrvr 08-27-2022 06:42 AM

Congrats! We look forward to seeing your bright shiny faces in indoc.

jetlaggy 10-22-2022 12:53 PM

Congrats and welcome!

ncaa2011 11-29-2022 07:36 PM

Is there a December class group chat going yet?

jayrobe50 11-30-2022 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by ncaa2011 (Post 3539731)
Is there a December class group chat going yet?

I haven’t seen one yet

ncaa2011 11-30-2022 09:14 PM

https://signal.group/#CjQKIJeKwfloetC8YJwczQpgCyIWOULiS4sav7Dn2-B6KlDfEhBssWdMqpw8OpQ3PApMfBKr

airplanes 12-05-2022 02:32 PM

Any word on class size today?

Russell Kasse 12-06-2022 08:43 AM

Bump for the drop?

Busman 12-07-2022 06:47 AM

7 a300, 3 anc 747, 1 sdf 747

jetlaggy 12-07-2022 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by Busman (Post 3545799)
7 a300, 3 anc 747, 1 sdf 747


Interesting that there was a sdf 747 left over for new hire

Slim_Pickens 12-07-2022 09:40 AM

No 75/76 (with new a/c to start showing up next year) nor MD’s? Displacement bid incoming?

Whalehunter 12-07-2022 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by Slim_Pickens (Post 3545948)
No 75/76 (with new a/c to start showing up next year) nor MD’s? Displacement bid incoming?

I'm sure we will find out after the great flood of 22 is done.

FTv3 12-07-2022 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by Slim_Pickens (Post 3545948)
No 75/76 (with new a/c to start showing up next year) nor MD’s? Displacement bid incoming?

There were a bunch of FO transitions awarded from other fleets to the 75/76 taking those spots. If they do park the MDs it’s not going to be like the 8 -> gone overnight. Half the fleet is still good to go. Imagine the rest will be a slow trickle.

BoilerUP 12-07-2022 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by Slim_Pickens (Post 3545948)
No 75/76 (with new a/c to start showing up next year) nor MD’s?

The December class was filled with positions remaining from 22-101.

Night_Hawk 12-08-2022 05:17 AM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 3546166)
The December class was filled with positions remaining from 22-101.

Are those the last remaining vacancies from 22-101?

Do you have the number created in the vacancy that just closed?


thanks

flyguy23 12-08-2022 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by Night_Hawk (Post 3546530)
Are those the last remaining vacancies from 22-101?

Do you have the number created in the vacancy that just closed?


thanks

No clue if that used up 22-101, as the union only used an approximate at the GMM. It’s gotta be pretty close though. There were 27 spots from the latest bid.

EnergyManager 12-08-2022 12:53 PM

I’m sure there wasn’t a 747 SDF. That position has gone quite senior.

tnkrdrvr 12-08-2022 06:15 PM

Manager? Maybe

airplanes 12-09-2022 11:47 AM

No it looks like a real person got the sdf 747 not a manager.

jetlaggy 12-09-2022 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by airplanes (Post 3547730)
No it looks like a real person got the sdf 747 not a manager.

2 of em. Wow

BoilerUP 12-09-2022 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by jetlaggy (Post 3547752)
2 of em. Wow

I think that was an error in CPIL; it said 12 newhires and 1 FQL but there were only eleven newhires pictured.

jetlaggy 12-09-2022 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 3547772)
I think that was an error in CPIL; it said 12 newhires and 1 FQL but there were only eleven newhires pictured.

Where are you saying the error is? I saw two IPA 747 SDF

BoilerUP 12-09-2022 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by jetlaggy (Post 3547790)
Where are you saying the error is? I saw two IPA 747 SDF


I don't believe there were twelve total, and I don't think there were two SDF 747.

CardboardCutout 12-09-2022 12:56 PM

One union guy is pictured twice in the Chief Pilots Propaganda Line, if that is a clue.

130drivr 12-09-2022 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by Slim_Pickens (Post 3545948)
No 75/76 (with new a/c to start showing up next year) nor MD’s? Displacement bid incoming?

There were no MDs hired last ~Nov-Mar timeframe either. May be coincidental, who knows.

jetlaggy 12-09-2022 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by CardboardCutout (Post 3547801)
One union guy is pictured twice in the Chief Pilots Propaganda Line, if that is a clue.


I know my eyes are getting old and half of ever class looks like brothers...but I can’t find the Waldo you speak of.

I did compare union records and found the 747 SDF error tho

J Van Vliet 12-10-2022 01:36 PM

Can someone explain how a new hire gets 747 SDF when so many others have standing bids for SDF?

FTv3 12-10-2022 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by J Van Vliet (Post 3548830)
Can someone explain how a new hire gets 747 SDF when so many others have standing bids for SDF?

The recent vacancy bid only had openings for 76 so any SDF 74 FO openings would have had to come from SDF 74 FOs bidding off fleet. Those resulting (recurred) openings would have then been available in this bid. 4 became available and were awarded.

New Hires are awarded vacancies based on unfilled vacancies, in this case from a previous bid. That’s how a new hire got SDF when more senior pilots want it.

Clear as mud…?

tnkrdrvr 12-11-2022 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by FTv3 (Post 3549006)
The recent vacancy bid only had openings for 76 so any SDF 74 FO openings would have had to come from SDF 74 FOs bidding off fleet. Those resulting (recurred) openings would have then been available in this bid. 4 became available and were awarded.

New Hires are awarded vacancies based on unfilled vacancies, in this case from a previous bid. That’s how a new hire got SDF when more senior pilots want it.

Clear as mud…?

Which is still pretty crappy.

FTv3 12-11-2022 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr (Post 3549404)
Which is still pretty crappy.

Check out Base Transfer thread on FedEx forum. Prefer that…?

tnkrdrvr 12-11-2022 05:38 PM

I’d prefer more along the lines of United. The idea of a desirable seat going to a new hire when plenty of folks already in property aren’t allowed to grab it is wrong.

jetlaggy 12-11-2022 06:10 PM

Isn't the idea here that the seat went unfilledso thats why a new hire got it. We had first crack at it.

FTv3 12-11-2022 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by jetlaggy (Post 3549834)
Isn't the idea here that the seat went unfilledso thats why a new hire got it. We had first crack at it.

Thats my understanding. New hires are being awarded vacancies from the bids earlier this year.

Tnkr - I agree that all open vacancies at point in time of the 22-102 Bid should have been included in the bid but also realize it’s not always that simple. Effective dates, training constraints, long term planning changes all affect the company’s ability to offer them. That and they just don’t give a F.

jetlaggy 12-12-2022 04:17 AM

Like a OT trip tickiing inside 48 hrs. U had your chance now they are in control. I just find it strange that a 747 SDF went unfilled in any bid.

tnkrdrvr 12-12-2022 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by jetlaggy (Post 3549834)
Isn't the idea here that the seat went unfilledso thats why a new hire got it. We had first crack at it.

ANC 74 new hires who came on board after that bid, but before the most recent bid did not have a shot at that slot and are senior (perhaps by hundreds of numbers) to the guys who are getting it. My opinion is that anytime we have a system bid, every open slot from that and all previous bids should be fair game. If the company no longer wants the slot, they should be forced to delete it. Obviously, this would take a change in contractual language. We don’t get things here out of the goodness of the company’s heart.

jetlaggy 12-12-2022 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr (Post 3550089)
ANC 74 new hires who came on board after that bid, but before the most recent bid did not have a shot at that slot and are senior (perhaps by hundreds of numbers) to the guys who are getting it. My opinion is that anytime we have a system bid, every open slot from that and all previous bids should be fair game. If the company no longer wants the slot, they should be forced to delete it. Obviously, this would take a change in contractual language. We don’t get things here out of the goodness of the company’s heart.


I am sure the company would love the opportunity to delete slots at their whim..right now we force them to use them within 18 months I believe..thats for a reason.

CCCXCI 12-12-2022 08:40 AM

I was awarded Z in my new hire class at the same time the company was displacing people off it.

jetlaggy 12-12-2022 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by CCCXCI (Post 3550197)
I was awarded Z in my new hire class at the same time the company was displacing people off it.


Sounds bout right…smh


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